<!DOCTYPE html><HTML lang="en"> <head><meta charset="utf-8"> <title>Forbes (Graeme) - Is There a Problem About Persistence? (Theo Todman's Book Collection - Paper Abstracts) </title> <link href="../../TheosStyle.css" rel="stylesheet" type="text/css"><link rel="shortcut icon" href="../../TT_ICO.png" /></head> <BODY> <CENTER> <div id="header"><HR><h1>Theo Todman's Web Page - Paper Abstracts</h1><HR></div><A name="Top"></A> <TABLE class = "Bridge" WIDTH=950> <tr><th><A HREF = "../../PaperSummaries/PaperSummary_03/PaperSummary_3437.htm">Is There a Problem About Persistence?</A></th></tr> <tr><th><A HREF = "../../Authors/F/Author_Forbes (Graeme).htm">Forbes (Graeme)</a></th></tr> <tr><th>Source: Haslanger (Sally) & Kurtz (Roxanne) - Persistence : Contemporary Readings</th></tr> <tr><th>Paper - Abstract</th></tr> </TABLE> </CENTER> <P><CENTER><TABLE class = "Bridge" WIDTH=600><tr><td><A HREF = "../../PaperSummaries/PaperSummary_03/PaperSummary_3437.htm">Paper Summary</A></td><td><A HREF = "../../PaperSummaries/PaperSummary_03/PaperCitings_3437.htm">Books / Papers Citing this Paper</A></td><td><A HREF = "../../PaperSummaries/PaperSummary_03/PapersToNotes_3437.htm">Notes Citing this Paper</A></td></tr></TABLE></CENTER></P> <hr><P><FONT COLOR = "0000FF"><U>Philosophers Index Abstract</U><FONT COLOR = "800080"><ol type="1">This paper responds to the arguments of Mark Johnston (in <a name="2"></a>"<A HREF = "../../Abstracts/Abstract_03/Abstract_3436.htm">Johnston (Mark) - Is There a Problem About Persistence?</A>") in the same symposium that the familiar philosophical debate about identity through time rests on misconceptions. I argue against both Johnston's position and that of David Lewis.</ol> </FONT><U>Conclusion</U><FONT COLOR = "800080"><ol type="1">My conclusion is that the conception of an enduring thing is not something that belongs to a particular theoretical apparatus for analysing tensed discourse about persistents. Rather, it is a conception native to that discourse. The stage-theorist who holds that his ontology is the basic one must therefore show that the language with tenses eliminated by quantifiers over times is primary with respect to tensed language. But the question of what would settle the operator-quantifier contest in this area appears as difficult to me as does its <a name="1"></a><A HREF="../../Notes/Notes_1/Notes_121.htm">modal</A><SUP>1</SUP> cousin </ol> </FONT><hr><FONT COLOR = "0000FF"><B>Comment: </B><ul type="disc"><li> Included in <a name="4"></a>"<A HREF = "../../BookSummaries/BookSummary_06/BookPaperAbstracts/BookPaperAbstracts_6213.htm">Look (Brandon C.) - The Metaphysics of Material Beings: Constitution, Persistence, and Identity</A>", </li><li>Also in <a name="5"></a>"<A HREF = "../../BookSummaries/BookSummary_00/BookPaperAbstracts/BookPaperAbstracts_647.htm">Noonan (Harold), Ed. - Identity</A>",</li><li>Originally from Supplement to the Proceedings of The Aristotelian Society LXI (1987), pp. 137-155; </li><li>Electronic copy filed with Johnston's paper of the same title (See <a name="3"></a>"<A HREF = "../../Abstracts/Abstract_03/Abstract_3436.htm">Johnston (Mark) - Is There a Problem About Persistence?</A>"). </li><li>Also in <a name="6"></a>"<A HREF = "../../BookSummaries/BookSummary_00/BookPaperAbstracts/BookPaperAbstracts_647.htm">Noonan (Harold), Ed. - Identity</A>"</li></ul><BR><FONT COLOR = "0000FF"><HR></P><a name="ColourConventions"></a><p><b>Text Colour Conventions (see <A HREF="../../Notes/Notes_10/Notes_1025.htm">disclaimer</a>)</b></p><OL TYPE="1"><LI><FONT COLOR = "0000FF">Blue</FONT>: Text by me; &copy; Theo Todman, 2018</li><LI><FONT COLOR = "800080">Mauve</FONT>: Text by correspondent(s) or other author(s); &copy; the author(s)</li></OL> <BR><HR><BR><CENTER> <TABLE class = "Bridge" WIDTH=950> <TR><TD WIDTH="30%">&copy; Theo Todman, June 2007 - August 2018.</TD> <TD WIDTH="40%">Please address any comments on this page to <A HREF="mailto:theo@theotodman.com">theo@theotodman.com</A>.</TD> <TD WIDTH="30%">File output: <time datetime="2018-08-03T00:09" pubdate>03/08/2018 00:09:41</time> <br><A HREF="../../Notes/Notes_10/Notes_1010.htm">Website Maintenance Dashboard</A></TD></TR> <TD WIDTH="30%"><A HREF="#Top">Return to Top of this Page</A></TD> <TD WIDTH="40%"><A HREF="../../Notes/Notes_11/Notes_1140.htm">Return to Theo Todman's Philosophy Page</A></TD> <TD WIDTH="30%"><A HREF="../../index.htm">Return to Theo Todman's Home Page</A></TD> </TR></TABLE></CENTER><HR> </BODY> </HTML>