<!DOCTYPE html><HTML lang="en"> <head><meta charset="utf-8"> <title>Todman (Theo) - Thesis - Connectedness vs Continuity (Theo Todman's Book Collection - Paper Abstracts) </title> <link href="../../TheosStyle.css" rel="stylesheet" type="text/css"><link rel="shortcut icon" href="../../TT_ICO.png" /></head> <BODY> <CENTER> <div id="header"><HR><h1>Theo Todman's Web Page - Paper Abstracts</h1><HR></div><A name="Top"></A> <TABLE class = "Bridge" WIDTH=950> <tr><th><A HREF = "../../PaperSummaries/PaperSummary_17/PaperSummary_17791.htm">Thesis - Connectedness vs Continuity</A></th></tr> <tr><th><A HREF = "../../Authors/T/Author_Todman (Theo).htm">Todman (Theo)</a></th></tr> <tr><th>Source: </th></tr> <tr><th>Paper - Abstract</th></tr> </TABLE> </CENTER> <P><CENTER><TABLE class = "Bridge" WIDTH=400><tr><td><A HREF = "../../PaperSummaries/PaperSummary_17/PaperSummary_17791.htm">Paper Summary</A></td><td><A HREF = "../../Notes/Notes_0/Notes_60.htm">Link to Latest Write-Up Note</A></td></tr></TABLE></CENTER></P> <hr><P><FONT COLOR = "0000FF"><ul type="disc"><li>This pseudo-Paper is intended as the mechanism to record time spent on the Note '<a name="1"></a><A HREF="../../Notes/Notes_0/Notes_60.htm">Connectedness vs Continuity</A><SUP>1</SUP>' during my Thesis research, as from 2011. </li><li>For the actual time recorded, click on "Paper Summary" above. </li></ul><FONT COLOR = "0000FF"><hr><br><B><u><U><A HREF="#On-Page_Link_P17791_2">Write-up</A></U><SUB>2</SUB><a name="On-Page_Return_P17791_2"></A></u> (as at 04/02/2018 17:09:36): Connectedness vs Continuity</B><BR><br><u><U><A HREF="#On-Page_Link_P17791_3">Plug Note</A></U><SUB>3</SUB><a name="On-Page_Return_P17791_3"></A></u><ul type="disc"><li>When defining <a name="2"></a><A HREF="../../Notes/Notes_0/Notes_91.htm">persistence conditions</A><SUP>4</SUP>, we need to distinguish between connectedness and continuity. <ol type="1"><li>Continuity is a transitive relation that relates adjacent stages. </li><li>Connectedness is intransitive and requires enough of the properties of interest to be maintained over time. </li></ol></li><li>At root, this is just the message of the Old Soldier, raised against Locke, and answered by Ancestrals of the  remembers relation.</li><li>Indeed, <a name="14"></a>"<A HREF = "../../Abstracts/Abstract_00/Abstract_262.htm">Johnston (Mark) - Human Beings</A>" (Journal of Philosophy, p. 61) describes Continuity as the <u>ancestral</u> of Connectedness. </li><li><a name="3"></a><A HREF="../../Notes/Notes_0/Notes_9.htm">Persons</A><SUP>5</SUP>  like <a name="4"></a><A HREF="../../Notes/Notes_0/Notes_30.htm">animals</A><SUP>6</SUP>  develop and  <U><A HREF="#On-Page_Link_P17791_7">grow</A></U><SUB>7</SUB><a name="On-Page_Return_P17791_7"></A> . We can admit that we have the same animal from <a name="5"></a><A HREF="../../Notes/Notes_0/Notes_71.htm">fetus</A><SUP>8</SUP> to <a name="6"></a><A HREF="../../Notes/Notes_0/Notes_65.htm">corpse</A><SUP>9</SUP> (with some arguments about the termini). However, do we have the same person? </li><li>I d contend that whatever physical and psychological <a name="7"></a><A HREF="../../Notes/Notes_0/Notes_16.htm">discontinuities</A><SUP>10</SUP> the human animal undergoes, we do have the same person where we have a person at all, provided a single <a name="8"></a><A HREF="../../Notes/Notes_0/Notes_22.htm">First Person Perspective</A><SUP>11</SUP> (FPP) is maintained. </li><li>If one s character changes radically over time, do you remain the same person? Yes, if we want the child and the adult to be the same person (as we do), or the convert to be the same person as the unbeliever.</li><li>The relevance of this to the present debate is that it is continuity that is relevant to personal identity, and not connectedness. This applies whatever view of Personal Identity we hold. </li><li><a name="18"></a><A HREF = "../../Authors/P/Author_Parfit (Derek).htm">Derek Parfit</A>  who doesn t think identity is <a name="9"></a><A HREF="../../Notes/Notes_1/Notes_108.htm">what matters</A><SUP>12</SUP>  holds a different view; that it is connectedness that matters, and so we need have no concern for future <a name="10"></a><A HREF="../../Notes/Notes_0/Notes_98.htm">selves</A><SUP>13</SUP> that are psychologically unconnected to our current selves. I think this view is mistaken, as we are locked in to a FPP and will have to experience the fate of that future self, however unconnected. </li><li>Works on this topic that <U><A HREF="#On-Page_Link_P17791_14">I ve actually read</A></U><SUB>14</SUB><a name="On-Page_Return_P17791_14"></A>, <U><A HREF="#On-Page_Link_P17791_15">include</A></U><SUB>15</SUB><a name="On-Page_Return_P17791_15"></A> the following:- <ol type="i"><li><a name="15"></a>"<A HREF = "../../Abstracts/Abstract_15/Abstract_15140.htm">Shoemaker (David) - Personal Identity, Rational Anticipation, and Self-Concern</A>", Shoemaker</li></ol></li><li>I don t  and won t  have a Note on Connectedness <em>per se</em>: this Note will cover all I have to say on the topic. </li><li>However, this note is linked to two others:-<BR>&rarr; <a name="11"></a><A HREF="../../Notes/Notes_0/Notes_17.htm">Continuity</A><SUP>16</SUP>, and<BR>&rarr; <a name="12"></a><A HREF="../../Notes/Notes_0/Notes_45.htm">Methuselah</A><SUP>17</SUP>.</li><li>So, a rather diminutive reading list might start with:- <ol type="i"><li><a name="16"></a>"<A HREF = "../../Abstracts/Abstract_12/Abstract_12114.htm">Belzer (Marvin) - Notes on Relation R</A>", Belzer</li><li><a name="17"></a>"<A HREF = "../../Abstracts/Abstract_05/Abstract_5076.htm">Campbell (Scott) - Is Connectedness Necessary to What Matters in Survival?</A>", Campbell</li></ol></li><li>This is mostly a <a name="13"></a><A HREF="../../Notes/Notes_7/Notes_737.htm">place-holder</A><SUP>18</SUP>. </li></ul><BR><HR><BR><U><B>In-Page Footnotes</U></B><a name="On-Page_Link_P17791_2"></A><BR><BR><U><A HREF="#On-Page_Return_P17791_2"><B>Footnote 2</A></B></U>: <ul type="disc"><li>This is the write-up as it was when this Abstract was last output, with text as at the timestamp indicated (04/02/2018 17:09:36). </li><li><A HREF = "../../Notes/Notes_0/Notes_60.htm">Link to Latest Write-Up Note</A>. </li></ul><a name="On-Page_Link_P17791_3"></A><U><A HREF="#On-Page_Return_P17791_3"><B>Footnote 3</A></B></U>: <ul type="disc"><li>A number of my philosophical Notes are  promissory notes currently only listing the books and papers (if any) I possess on the topic concerned. </li><li>I ve decided to add some text  whether by way of motivation, or something more substantive  for all these identified topics related to my Thesis.</li><li>As I want to do this fairly quickly, the text may be confused or show surprising ignorance. </li><li>The reader (if such exists) will have to bear with me, and display the principle of charity while this footnote exists. </li></ul><a name="On-Page_Link_P17791_7"></A><U><A HREF="#On-Page_Return_P17791_7"><B>Footnote 7</A></B></U>: <ul type="disc"><li>Not necessarily physically  that would be begging the question as to what persons are. </li></ul> <a name="On-Page_Link_P17791_14"></A><U><A HREF="#On-Page_Return_P17791_14"><B>Footnote 14</A></B></U>: <ul type="disc"><li>Frequently I ll have made copious marginal annotations, and sometimes have written up a review-note. </li><li>In the former case, I intend to transfer the annotations into electronic form as soon as I can find the time. </li><li>In the latter case, I will have remarked on the fact against the citation, and will integrate the comments into this Note in due course. </li><li>My intention is to incorporate into these Notes comments on material I ve already read rather than engage with unread material at this stage. </li></ul><a name="On-Page_Link_P17791_15"></A><U><A HREF="#On-Page_Return_P17791_15"><B>Footnote 15</A></B></U>: <ul type="disc"><li>I may have read others in between updates of this Note  in which case they will be marked as such in the  References and Reading List below.</li><li>Papers or Books partially read have a rough %age based on the time spent versus the time expected. </li></ul> <FONT COLOR = "0000FF"><HR></P><a name="ColourConventions"></a><p><b>Text Colour Conventions (see <A HREF="../../Notes/Notes_10/Notes_1025.htm">disclaimer</a>)</b></p><OL TYPE="1"><LI><FONT COLOR = "0000FF">Blue</FONT>: Text by me; &copy; Theo Todman, 2018</li></OL> <BR><HR><BR><CENTER> <TABLE class = "Bridge" WIDTH=950> <TR><TD WIDTH="30%">&copy; Theo Todman, June 2007 - August 2018.</TD> <TD WIDTH="40%">Please address any comments on this page to <A HREF="mailto:theo@theotodman.com">theo@theotodman.com</A>.</TD> <TD WIDTH="30%">File output: <time datetime="2018-08-17T12:08" pubdate>17/08/2018 12:08:34</time> <br><A HREF="../../Notes/Notes_10/Notes_1010.htm">Website Maintenance Dashboard</A></TD></TR> <TD WIDTH="30%"><A HREF="#Top">Return to Top of this Page</A></TD> <TD WIDTH="40%"><A HREF="../../Notes/Notes_11/Notes_1140.htm">Return to Theo Todman's Philosophy Page</A></TD> <TD WIDTH="30%"><A HREF="../../index.htm">Return to Theo Todman's Home Page</A></TD> </TR></TABLE></CENTER><HR> </BODY> </HTML>