<!DOCTYPE html><HTML lang="en"> <head><meta charset="utf-8"> <title>Todman (Theo) - Thesis - Counting Persons (Theo Todman's Book Collection - Paper Abstracts) </title> <link href="../../TheosStyle.css" rel="stylesheet" type="text/css"><link rel="shortcut icon" href="../../TT_ICO.png" /></head> <BODY> <CENTER> <div id="header"><HR><h1>Theo Todman's Web Page - Paper Abstracts</h1><HR></div><A name="Top"></A> <TABLE class = "Bridge" WIDTH=950> <tr><th><A HREF = "../../PaperSummaries/PaperSummary_17/PaperSummary_17800.htm">Thesis - Counting Persons</A></th></tr> <tr><th><A HREF = "../../Authors/T/Author_Todman (Theo).htm">Todman (Theo)</a></th></tr> <tr><th>Source: </th></tr> <tr><th>Paper - Abstract</th></tr> </TABLE> </CENTER> <P><CENTER><TABLE class = "Bridge" WIDTH=400><tr><td><A HREF = "../../PaperSummaries/PaperSummary_17/PaperSummary_17800.htm">Paper Summary</A></td><td><A HREF = "../../Notes/Notes_0/Notes_43.htm">Link to Latest Write-Up Note</A></td></tr></TABLE></CENTER></P> <hr><P><FONT COLOR = "0000FF"><ul type="disc"><li>This pseudo-Paper is intended as the mechanism to record time spent on the Note '<a name="1"></a><A HREF="../../Notes/Notes_0/Notes_43.htm">Counting Persons</A><SUP>1</SUP>' during my Thesis research, as from 2011. </li><li>For the actual time recorded, click on "Paper Summary" above. </li></ul><FONT COLOR = "0000FF"><hr><br><B><u><U><A HREF="#On-Page_Link_P17800_2">Write-up</A></U><SUB>2</SUB><a name="On-Page_Return_P17800_2"></A></u> (as at 07/02/2018 19:42:14): Counting Persons</B><BR><br><u><U><A HREF="#On-Page_Link_P17800_3">Plug Note</A></U><SUB>3</SUB><a name="On-Page_Return_P17800_3"></A></u><ul type="disc"><li>I need to address the adverse consequences of <a name="34"></a><A HREF = "../../Authors/L/Author_Lewis (David).htm">David Lewis</A> s <a name="2"></a><A HREF="../../Notes/Notes_0/Notes_42.htm">perdurantist</A><SUP>4</SUP> approach to <a name="3"></a><A HREF="../../Notes/Notes_0/Notes_33.htm">fission</A><SUP>5</SUP> in personal identity. </li><li>According to this theory, there were always coincident stages of the two space-time worms prior to fission. So, there were two persons there all along; yet we counted only one, <U><A HREF="#On-Page_Link_P17800_6">being ignorant of</A></U><SUB>6</SUB><a name="On-Page_Return_P17800_6"></A> the future fission. </li><li>What are the consequences of miscounting? No doubt this depends on what function (or more likely <u>functions</u>) our <a name="4"></a><A HREF="../../Notes/Notes_0/Notes_23.htm">concept</A><SUP>7</SUP> <a name="5"></a><A HREF="../../Notes/Notes_0/Notes_9.htm">PERSON</A><SUP>8</SUP> performs. </li><li>We might ask whether it is just persons who are miscounted, or are <a name="6"></a><A HREF="../../Notes/Notes_0/Notes_74.htm">human beings</A><SUP>9</SUP> also miscounted? This will obviously depend on the <a name="7"></a><A HREF="../../Notes/Notes_0/Notes_32.htm">TE</A><SUP>10</SUP>, which would need spelling out. </li><li>Take the case of a <a name="8"></a><A HREF="../../Notes/Notes_7/Notes_763.htm">half-brain</A><SUP>11</SUP> <a name="9"></a><A HREF="../../Notes/Notes_1/Notes_104.htm">transplant</A><SUP>12</SUP>. In this TE, a person s psychology is supposed to be <a name="10"></a><A HREF="../../Notes/Notes_0/Notes_35.htm">duplicated</A><SUP>13</SUP> within two idempotent half-brains, one of which stays in the donor s head, the other being transplanted into the empty skull of a recipient. In this TE, the <a name="11"></a><A HREF="../../Notes/Notes_1/Notes_114.htm">psychological view</A><SUP>14</SUP> of personal identity is assumed. We start off with one locus of psychology, and end up with two. This is the standard problem of fission  which successor is identical to the original person? We seem to want both to be, but  in the absence of perdurantism  the <a name="12"></a><A HREF="../../Notes/Notes_0/Notes_12.htm">logic of identity</A><SUP>15</SUP> forbids it. Perdurantism helps us out, at the cost of there being more pre-fission persons than we thought. </li><li>What about other fall-out? Are the earlier stages of the  recipient patient  viewed as an animal  spatially distributed  so is such a <a name="13"></a><A HREF="../../Notes/Notes_1/Notes_123.htm">distributed</A><SUP>16</SUP> thing a human being at all? </li><li>What is the core of humanness  is this always the <a name="14"></a><A HREF="../../Notes/Notes_0/Notes_55.htm">brain</A><SUP>17</SUP>, so that the human goes along with the half-brain, and the <a name="15"></a><A HREF="../../Notes/Notes_0/Notes_18.htm">body</A><SUP>18</SUP> is just like any other transplant, only bigger?</li><li>Problems with counting persons also allegedly arises in the context of:- <BR>&rarr; <a name="16"></a><A HREF="../../Notes/Notes_0/Notes_86.htm">Multiple Personality Disorder</A><SUP>19</SUP>, and<BR>&rarr; <a name="17"></a><A HREF="../../Notes/Notes_1/Notes_116.htm">Commissurotomy</A><SUP>20</SUP><BR>While the latter is a precursor for the half-brain transplant described above, both are at least actual situations that are less open to the charge of under-description often alleged against TEs. </li><li>Finally, for now at least, and maybe most importantly  the issue of counting arises in <a name="35"></a><A HREF = "../../Authors/O/Author_Olson (Eric).htm">Eric Olson</A> s <a name="18"></a><A HREF="../../Notes/Notes_8/Notes_872.htm">Thinking Animal Argument</A><SUP>21</SUP>, and the various conundrums involving (partly) <a name="19"></a><A HREF="../../Notes/Notes_0/Notes_59.htm">coincident objects</A><SUP>22</SUP>. </li><li>Works on this topic that <U><A HREF="#On-Page_Link_P17800_23">I ve actually read</A></U><SUB>23</SUB><a name="On-Page_Return_P17800_23"></A>, <U><A HREF="#On-Page_Link_P17800_24">include</A></U><SUB>24</SUB><a name="On-Page_Return_P17800_24"></A> the following:- <ol type="i"><li><a name="21"></a>"<A HREF = "../../Abstracts/Abstract_03/Abstract_3670.htm">Wilkes (Kathleen) - Being in Two Minds</A>", Wilkes</li><li><a name="22"></a>"<A HREF = "../../Abstracts/Abstract_03/Abstract_3669.htm">Wilkes (Kathleen) - Fugues, Hypnosis, and Multiple Personality</A>", Wilkes</li></ol></li><li>A reading list (where not covered elsewhere) might start with:- <ol type="i"><li><a name="23"></a>"<A HREF = "../../Abstracts/Abstract_06/Abstract_6631.htm">Baxter (Donald L.M.) - Many-One Identity</A>", Baxter</li><li><a name="24"></a>"<A HREF = "../../Abstracts/Abstract_06/Abstract_6300.htm">Gallois (Andre) - Counting Amoebas</A>", Gallois</li><li><a name="25"></a>"<A HREF = "../../Abstracts/Abstract_05/Abstract_5393.htm">Hawley (Katherine) - Parts and Stages</A>", Hawley</li><li><a name="26"></a>"<A HREF = "../../Abstracts/Abstract_21/Abstract_21106.htm">Hershenov (David) - Merrick's Identification of the Person and Organism</A>", Hershenov</li><li><a name="27"></a>"<A HREF = "../../Abstracts/Abstract_04/Abstract_4757.htm">Olson (Eric) - Material Coincidence and the Indiscernibility Problem</A>", Olson<BR>&rarr; <a name="28"></a>"<A HREF = "../../Abstracts/Abstract_09/Abstract_9485.htm">Lowe (E.J.) - Material Coincidence and the Cinematographic Fallacy: A Response to Olson</A>", Lowe<BR>&rarr; <a name="29"></a>"<A HREF = "../../Abstracts/Abstract_05/Abstract_5209.htm">Olson (Eric) - Lowe's Defence of Constitutionalism</A>", Olson</li><li><a name="30"></a>"<A HREF = "../../Abstracts/Abstract_06/Abstract_6242.htm">Parsons (Terence) - Counting Objects</A>", Parsons</li><li><a name="31"></a>"<A HREF = "../../Abstracts/Abstract_21/Abstract_21008.htm">Snowdon (Paul) - Multiple Personality Disorder</A>", Snowdon</li><li><a name="32"></a>"<A HREF = "../../Abstracts/Abstract_23/Abstract_23100.htm">Thomson (Garrett) - Counting subjects</A>", Thomson</li><li><a name="33"></a>"<A HREF = "../../Abstracts/Abstract_01/Abstract_1392.htm">Williams (Bernard) - Identity and Identities</A>", Williams</li></ol></li><li>This is mostly a <a name="20"></a><A HREF="../../Notes/Notes_7/Notes_737.htm">place-holder</A><SUP>25</SUP>. </li></ul><BR><HR><BR><U><B>In-Page Footnotes</U></B><a name="On-Page_Link_P17800_2"></A><BR><BR><U><A HREF="#On-Page_Return_P17800_2"><B>Footnote 2</A></B></U>: <ul type="disc"><li>This is the write-up as it was when this Abstract was last output, with text as at the timestamp indicated (07/02/2018 19:42:14). </li><li><A HREF = "../../Notes/Notes_0/Notes_43.htm">Link to Latest Write-Up Note</A>. </li></ul><a name="On-Page_Link_P17800_3"></A><U><A HREF="#On-Page_Return_P17800_3"><B>Footnote 3</A></B></U>: <ul type="disc"><li>A number of my philosophical Notes are  promissory notes currently only listing the books and papers (if any) I possess on the topic concerned. </li><li>I ve decided to add some text  whether by way of motivation, or something more substantive  for all these identified topics related to my Thesis.</li><li>As I want to do this fairly quickly, the text may be confused or show surprising ignorance. </li><li>The reader (if such exists) will have to bear with me, and display the principle of charity while this footnote exists. </li></ul><a name="On-Page_Link_P17800_6"></A><U><A HREF="#On-Page_Return_P17800_6"><B>Footnote 6</A></B></U>: <ul type="disc"><li>No doubt if this fanciful event could be planned or anticipated we would count differently. </li></ul> <a name="On-Page_Link_P17800_23"></A><U><A HREF="#On-Page_Return_P17800_23"><B>Footnote 23</A></B></U>: <ul type="disc"><li>Frequently I ll have made copious marginal annotations, and sometimes have written up a review-note. </li><li>In the former case, I intend to transfer the annotations into electronic form as soon as I can find the time. </li><li>In the latter case, I will have remarked on the fact against the citation, and will integrate the comments into this Note in due course. </li><li>My intention is to incorporate into these Notes comments on material I ve already read rather than engage with unread material at this stage. </li></ul><a name="On-Page_Link_P17800_24"></A><U><A HREF="#On-Page_Return_P17800_24"><B>Footnote 24</A></B></U>: <ul type="disc"><li>I may have read others in between updates of this Note  in which case they will be marked as such in the  References and Reading List below.</li><li>Papers or Books partially read have a rough %age based on the time spent versus the time expected. </li></ul> <FONT COLOR = "0000FF"><HR></P><a name="ColourConventions"></a><p><b>Text Colour Conventions (see <A HREF="../../Notes/Notes_10/Notes_1025.htm">disclaimer</a>)</b></p><OL TYPE="1"><LI><FONT COLOR = "0000FF">Blue</FONT>: Text by me; 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