<!DOCTYPE html><HTML lang="en"> <head><meta charset="utf-8"> <title>Todman (Theo) - Thesis - Methuselah (Theo Todman's Book Collection - Paper Abstracts) </title> <link href="../../TheosStyle.css" rel="stylesheet" type="text/css"><link rel="shortcut icon" href="../../TT_ICO.png" /></head> <BODY> <CENTER> <div id="header"><HR><h1>Theo Todman's Web Page - Paper Abstracts</h1><HR></div><A name="Top"></A> <TABLE class = "Bridge" WIDTH=950> <tr><th><A HREF = "../../PaperSummaries/PaperSummary_17/PaperSummary_17842.htm">Thesis - Methuselah</A></th></tr> <tr><th><A HREF = "../../Authors/T/Author_Todman (Theo).htm">Todman (Theo)</a></th></tr> <tr><th>Source: </th></tr> <tr><th>Paper - Abstract</th></tr> </TABLE> </CENTER> <P><CENTER><TABLE class = "Bridge" WIDTH=400><tr><td><A HREF = "../../PaperSummaries/PaperSummary_17/PaperSummary_17842.htm">Paper Summary</A></td><td><A HREF = "../../Notes/Notes_0/Notes_45.htm">Link to Latest Write-Up Note</A></td></tr></TABLE></CENTER></P> <hr><P><FONT COLOR = "0000FF"><ul type="disc"><li>This pseudo-Paper is intended as the mechanism to record time spent on the Note '<a name="1"></a><A HREF="../../Notes/Notes_0/Notes_45.htm">Methuselah</A><SUP>1</SUP>' during my Thesis research, as from 2011. </li><li>For the actual time recorded, click on "Paper Summary" above. </li></ul><FONT COLOR = "0000FF"><hr><br><B><u><U><A HREF="#On-Page_Link_P17842_2">Write-up</A></U><SUB>2</SUB><a name="On-Page_Return_P17842_2"></A></u> (as at 10/05/2018 10:07:41): Methuselah</B><BR><br><u><U><A HREF="#On-Page_Link_P17842_3">Plug Note</A></U><SUB>3</SUB><a name="On-Page_Return_P17842_3"></A></u><ul type="disc"><li>I m unimpressed by <a name="2"></a><A HREF="../../Notes/Notes_0/Notes_82.htm">Lewis</A><SUP>4</SUP> s solution to the Methuselah <a name="3"></a><A HREF="../../Notes/Notes_0/Notes_32.htm">thought experiment</A><SUP>5</SUP>, which seems to be a <em>reductio ad absurdum</em> of the <a name="4"></a><A HREF="../../Notes/Notes_1/Notes_114.htm">psychological</A><SUP>6</SUP> <a name="5"></a><A HREF="../../Notes/Notes_0/Notes_60.htm">connectedness</A><SUP>7</SUP> approach to personal identity. </li><li>Can there really be an uncountable infinity of <a name="6"></a><A HREF="../../Notes/Notes_0/Notes_9.htm">persons</A><SUP>8</SUP> residing in a single <a name="7"></a><A HREF="../../Notes/Notes_0/Notes_18.htm">body</A><SUP>9</SUP>? But why not? Lewis thrives on pressing credibility. </li><li>The  no prudential concern for the future argument also seems to be another <em>reductio</em> of the connectedness approach. If I m not the same person as the future occupant of my body, why make provisions for him. Yet, he ll share my <a name="8"></a><A HREF="../../Notes/Notes_0/Notes_22.htm">first-person perspective</A><SUP>10</SUP> and I ll be <a name="9"></a><A HREF="../../Notes/Notes_0/Notes_16.htm">psychologically continuous</A><SUP>11</SUP> with him. </li><li>Of course, Lewis s model (of a 150-year cut-off for psychological connectedness) is admittedly too crude. <a name="10"></a><A HREF="../../Notes/Notes_0/Notes_89.htm">Parfit</A><SUP>12</SUP> sees temporally extended persons as <U><A HREF="#On-Page_Link_P17842_13">persons of reduced degree</A></U><SUB>13</SUB><a name="On-Page_Return_P17842_13"></A>, according to the degree of connectedness. However, this seems to destroy the natural growth and maturation of the person. </li><li>I m still the same person as was my immature self, even though most of my hopes and desires have changed. If I m in control of my life, I own these changes, brought them about, and often think them for the good. </li><li>What about where I don t own them, but regret my corruption (moral and physical)? It s still <U>my</U> corruption that I regret. I m the same <a name="11"></a><A HREF="../../Notes/Notes_0/Notes_74.htm">human being</A><SUP>14</SUP>. </li><li>It depends what <a name="12"></a><A HREF="../../Notes/Notes_0/Notes_23.htm">concept</A><SUP>15</SUP> we want to use the term  person for. We always have to distinguish <a name="13"></a><A HREF="../../Notes/Notes_0/Notes_92.htm">personality</A><SUP>16</SUP> from persons. </li><li>Finally, consider <a name="26"></a><A HREF = "../../Authors/K/Author_Kripke (Saul).htm">Saul Kripke</A> on individuation by <a name="14"></a><A HREF="../../Notes/Notes_1/Notes_117.htm">origin</A><SUP>17</SUP>. Is this a possible objection to overlapping persons? If a person s origin is what <a name="15"></a><A HREF="../../Notes/Notes_0/Notes_12.htm">individuates</A><SUP>18</SUP> it, how is it possible for persons to have <a name="16"></a><A HREF="../../Notes/Notes_1/Notes_112.htm">vague</A><SUP>19</SUP><a name="17"></a><A HREF="../../Notes/Notes_1/Notes_106.htm">,</A><SUP>20</SUP> origins as in an un-simplified Methusalah case? There are two issues here that need spelling out.</li><li>For a page of <U><A HREF="#On-Page_Link_P17842_21">Links</A></U><SUB>21</SUB><a name="On-Page_Return_P17842_21"></A> to this Note, <a href="Notes_45_Links.htm">Click here</a>.</li><li>Works on this topic that <U><A HREF="#On-Page_Link_P17842_22">I ve actually read</A></U><SUB>22</SUB><a name="On-Page_Return_P17842_22"></A>, <U><A HREF="#On-Page_Link_P17842_23">include</A></U><SUB>23</SUB><a name="On-Page_Return_P17842_23"></A> the following:- <ol type="i"><li><a name="20"></a>"<A HREF = "../../Abstracts/Abstract_00/Abstract_113.htm">Lewis (David) - Survival and Identity</A>", Lewis</li><li><a name="21"></a>"<A HREF = "../../Abstracts/Abstract_03/Abstract_3968.htm">Noonan (Harold) - Identity and Determinacy</A>", Noonan</li><li><a name="22"></a>"<A HREF = "../../Abstracts/Abstract_00/Abstract_541.htm">Perry (John) - The Importance of Being Identical</A>", Perry</li></ol></li><li>A reading list (where not covered elsewhere) might start with:- <ol type="i"><li><a name="23"></a>"<A HREF = "../../Abstracts/Abstract_23/Abstract_23366.htm">Briggs (Rachael) & Nolan (Daniel) - Utility Monsters for the Fission Age</A>", Briggs & Nolan</li><li><a name="24"></a>"<A HREF = "../../Abstracts/Abstract_23/Abstract_23365.htm">Butkovic (Ana) - Does Identity Really Matter? Parfit vs Lewis</A>", Butkovic</li><li><a name="25"></a>"<A HREF = "../../Abstracts/Abstract_23/Abstract_23364.htm">So (Paul) - Lewis Personal Identity</A>", So</li></ol></li><li>This is mostly a <a name="18"></a><A HREF="../../Notes/Notes_7/Notes_737.htm">place-holder</A><SUP>24</SUP>. </li></ul><BR><HR><BR><U><B>In-Page Footnotes</U></B><a name="On-Page_Link_P17842_2"></A><BR><BR><U><A HREF="#On-Page_Return_P17842_2"><B>Footnote 2</A></B></U>: <ul type="disc"><li>This is the write-up as it was when this Abstract was last output, with text as at the timestamp indicated (10/05/2018 10:07:41). </li><li><A HREF = "../../Notes/Notes_0/Notes_45.htm">Link to Latest Write-Up Note</A>. </li></ul><a name="On-Page_Link_P17842_3"></A><U><A HREF="#On-Page_Return_P17842_3"><B>Footnote 3</A></B></U>: <ul type="disc"><li>A number of my philosophical Notes are  promissory notes currently only listing the books and papers (if any) I possess on the topic concerned. </li><li>I ve decided to add some text  whether by way of motivation, or something more substantive  for all these identified topics related to my Thesis.</li><li>As I want to do this fairly quickly, the text may be confused or show surprising ignorance. </li><li>The reader (if such exists) will have to bear with me, and display the principle of charity while this footnote exists. </li></ul><a name="On-Page_Link_P17842_13"></A><U><A HREF="#On-Page_Return_P17842_13"><B>Footnote 13</A></B></U>: <ul type="disc"><li>I need to re-read Parfit to see what he means (assuming he said this!). </li><li>I have a Note on <a name="19"></a><A HREF="../../Notes/Notes_8/Notes_870.htm">Degrees of Personhood</a>, but it is talking about something else, I think. </li></ul> <a name="On-Page_Link_P17842_21"></A><U><A HREF="#On-Page_Return_P17842_21"><B>Footnote 21</A></B></U>: <ul type="disc"><li>If only a  non-updating run has been made, the links are only one-way  ie. from the page of links to the objects that reference this Note by mentioning the appropriate key-word(s). The links are also only indicative, as they haven t yet been confirmed as relevant. </li><li>Once an updating run has been made, links are both ways, and links from this Notes page (from the  Authors, Books & Papers Citing this Note and  Summary of Note Links to this Page sections) are to the  point of link within the page rather than to the page generically. Links from the  links page remain generic. </li><li>There are two sorts of updating runs  for Notes and other Objects. The reason for this is that Notes are archived, and too many archived versions would be created if this process were repeatedly run. </li></ul> <a name="On-Page_Link_P17842_22"></A><U><A HREF="#On-Page_Return_P17842_22"><B>Footnote 22</A></B></U>: <ul type="disc"><li>Frequently I ll have made copious marginal annotations, and sometimes have written up a review-note. </li><li>In the former case, I intend to transfer the annotations into electronic form as soon as I can find the time. </li><li>In the latter case, I will have remarked on the fact against the citation, and will integrate the comments into this Note in due course. </li><li>My intention is to incorporate into these Notes comments on material I ve already read rather than engage with unread material at this stage. </li></ul><a name="On-Page_Link_P17842_23"></A><U><A HREF="#On-Page_Return_P17842_23"><B>Footnote 23</A></B></U>: <ul type="disc"><li>I may have read others in between updates of this Note  in which case they will be marked as such in the  References and Reading List below.</li><li>Papers or Books partially read have a rough %age based on the time spent versus the time expected. </li></ul> <FONT COLOR = "0000FF"><HR></P><a name="ColourConventions"></a><p><b>Text Colour Conventions (see <A HREF="../../Notes/Notes_10/Notes_1025.htm">disclaimer</a>)</b></p><OL TYPE="1"><LI><FONT COLOR = "0000FF">Blue</FONT>: Text by me; &copy; Theo Todman, 2018</li></OL> <BR><HR><BR><CENTER> <TABLE class = "Bridge" WIDTH=950> <TR><TD WIDTH="30%">&copy; Theo Todman, June 2007 - August 2018.</TD> <TD WIDTH="40%">Please address any comments on this page to <A HREF="mailto:theo@theotodman.com">theo@theotodman.com</A>.</TD> <TD WIDTH="30%">File output: <time datetime="2018-08-13T13:21" pubdate>13/08/2018 13:21:19</time> <br><A HREF="../../Notes/Notes_10/Notes_1010.htm">Website Maintenance Dashboard</A></TD></TR> <TD WIDTH="30%"><A HREF="#Top">Return to Top of this Page</A></TD> <TD WIDTH="40%"><A HREF="../../Notes/Notes_11/Notes_1140.htm">Return to Theo Todman's Philosophy Page</A></TD> <TD WIDTH="30%"><A HREF="../../index.htm">Return to Theo Todman's Home Page</A></TD> </TR></TABLE></CENTER><HR> </BODY> </HTML>