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Write-up2 (as at 26/09/2020 19:58:05): Immortality
- This is a sub-topic of Life after death4, the others being:-
→ Resurrection5, and
To these historical options we can now add the various hopes of:-
- In the Biblical Christian tradition, God is the only being with natural immortality (see 1 Timothy 6:16 “God … who alone is immortal”, NIV), but Plato (and his Platonising Christian followers) had it that the (human) soul8 is also naturally immortal. So, the Biblical view is rather that God gives or denies immortality to whoever he wishes (and there is consequently no need to eternally roast the immortal souls of the wicked).
- St, Paul has it that “the perishable must clothe itself with the imperishable, and the mortal with immortality” (1 Corinthians 15:53, NIV). This is in the context of the resurrection of the just at the return of Christ.
- In the context of identity theory, it is doubtful whether the very same thing can at one time be perishable and at another time immortal, because a thing’s persistence conditions9 are taken to be essential properties of the sort10 it is, and a single thing cannot change sort.
- As such, (as "Johnston (Mark) - Surviving Death" notes), natural immortality of the soul is the only hope for post-mortem survival. But this hope is itself dashed by the lack of empirical evidence for the existence of the substantial soul, immortal or otherwise.
- It does seem incongruous to talk about post-mortem immortality – how can something that has died be immortal? The idea, no doubt, is that it is the body that the soul occupied that was mortal. Hence, the soul needs a new immortal body to be clothed with. That seems to be the Pauline picture, though debated by the “Conditional Immortality” people.
- The Transhumanists11 hope that Uploading12 to a computer might lead to indefinitely extended life, though this is hardly immortality. Indefinite dentity-preserving life extensions might be possible using repair-microbots.
- In all this, I’m talking about the persistence of the individual13. I’m not talking about “immortality” in the sense of “undying fame”. As Woody Allen quipped14 – “I don't want to achieve immortality through my work; I want to achieve immortality through not dying. I don't want to live on in the hearts of my countrymen; I want to live on in my apartment”.
- "Williams (Bernard) - The Makropulos Case: Reflections on the Tedium of Immortality" argues that we wouldn’t even want immortality, but I’m not convinced. However, a bad immortality – uploading15 to an evil computer, for instance – would be worse than no immortality, though some16 are not even convinced of that. Reading associated with this topic is covered under:-
→ Makropulos Case17
- Of course, if animalism18 is the correct account of personal identity, immortality is not on offer, though if the transhumanists19 succeed, an indefinite extension of life might be possible.
- I have some other notes on this and related topics as part of Philosophy of Religion20 and my Blog21, including:-
→ Death and Eternal Life22,
- For a Page of Links23 to this Note, Click here. There’s a lot of interest (and much that’s irrelevant). I’ve not had time to process it yet.
- Works on this topic that I’ve actually read24 include the following:-
- "Badham (Paul) & Badham (Linda) - Immortality or Extinction: Introduction", Badham
- "Cave (Stephen) - Everlasting glory", Cave
- "Cave (Stephen) - Remember Herostratus", Cave
- "Edwards (Paul) - Dr. Kubler-Ross, Dr. Moody, and the New Immortality Movement", Edwards
- "Grossman (Lev), Kurzweil (Ray) - 2045: The Year Man Becomes Immortal", Grossman
- "Kagan (Shelly) - Plato, Part II: Arguments for the immortality of the soul", Shelley
- "Kagan (Shelly) - Plato, Part III: Arguments for the immortality of the soul (cont.)", Shelley
- "Kagan (Shelly) - Plato, Part IV: Arguments for the immortality of the soul (cont.)", Shelley
- "Kagan (Shelly) - The badness of death, Part III; Immortality, Part I", Shelley
- "Kagan (Shelly) - Immortality Part II; The value of life, Part I", Shelley
- "Perry (John) - A Dialogue on Personal Identity and Immortality", Perry
- "Shoemaker (David) - Personal Identity and Immortality", Shoemaker
- "Williams (Bernard) - The Makropulos Case: Reflections on the Tedium of Immortality", Williams
- A further reading list25 might start with:-
- "Badham (Paul) & Badham (Linda) - Immortality or Extinction", Badham
- "Barr (James) - The Garden of Eden and the Hope of Immortality", Barr
- "Bostock (David) - The Soul and Immortality in Plato's Phaedo", Bostock
- "Cullmann (Oscar) - Immortality of the Soul or Resurrection of the Dead?", Cullmann
- "Edwards (Paul), Ed. - Immortality", Edwards
- "Flew (Antony) - Merely Mortal?", Flew
- "Forrest (Peter) - The Tree of Life: Agency and Immortality in a Metaphysics Inspired by Quantum Theory", Forrest
- "Gillman (Neil) - The Death Of Death: Resurrection and Immortality in Jewish Thought", Gillman
- "Hick (John) - Death and Eternal Life", Hick
- "Johnston (Mark) - Surviving Death", Johnston
- "Martin (L. Michael) & Augustine (Keith) - The Myth of an Afterlife: The Case against Life After Death", Martin & Augustine
- "Merricks (Trenton) - How to Live Forever Without Saving Your Soul: Physicalism and Immortality", Merricks
- "Murray (Michael J.) & Rea (Michael) - Mind, body, and immortality", Murray & Rea
- "Nussbaum (Martha) - Mortal Immortals: Lucretius on Death and the Voice of Nature", Nussbaum
- "Penelhum (Terence), Ed. - Immortality", Penelhum
- "Penny (Michael) - Immortality! When?", Penny
- "Tolkein (J.R.R.) - The Lord of the Rings: Part I - The Fellowship of the Ring", Perrett
- "Perrett (Roy W.) - Regarding Immortality", Perrett
- "Phillips (D.Z.) - Death and Immortality", Phillips
- "Shoemaker (Sydney) - Immortality and Dualism", Shoemaker
- "Sutherland (Stewart R.) - Immortality and Resurrection", Sutherland
- "Tipler (Frank) - The Physics of Immortality: Modern Cosmology, God and the Resurrection of the Dead", Tipler
- This is mostly a place-holder26.
Footnote 14: Footnote 16: Footnote 25:
- This is the write-up as it was when this Abstract was last output, with text as at the timestamp indicated (26/09/2020 19:58:05).
- Link to Latest Write-Up Note.
- The categorised reading-list requires some pruning in order to fit to identity-related issues only.
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