<!DOCTYPE html><HTML lang="en"> <head><meta charset="utf-8"> <title>Crull (Elise) - You thought quantum mechanics was weird: check out entangled time (Theo Todman's Book Collection - Paper Abstracts) </title> <link href="../../TheosStyle.css" rel="stylesheet" type="text/css"><link rel="shortcut icon" href="../../TT_ICO.png" /></head> <BODY> <CENTER> <div id="header"><HR><h1>Theo Todman's Web Page - Paper Abstracts</h1><HR></div><A name="Top"></A> <TABLE class = "Bridge" WIDTH=950> <tr><th><A HREF = "../../PaperSummaries/PaperSummary_23/PaperSummary_23297.htm">You thought quantum mechanics was weird: check out entangled time</A></th></tr> <tr><th><A HREF = "../../Authors/C/Author_Crull (Elise).htm">Crull (Elise)</a></th></tr> <tr><th>Source: Aeon, 02 February, 2018</th></tr> <tr><th>Paper - Abstract</th></tr> </TABLE> </CENTER> <P><CENTER><TABLE class = "Bridge" WIDTH=600><tr><td><A HREF = "../../PaperSummaries/PaperSummary_23/PaperSummary_23297.htm">Paper Summary</A></td><td><A HREF = "../../PaperSummaries/PaperSummary_23/PapersToNotes_23297.htm">Notes Citing this Paper</A></td><td><A HREF="#ColourConventions">Text Colour-Conventions</a></td></tr></TABLE></CENTER></P> <hr><P><FONT COLOR = "0000FF"><u>Notes</u><ul type="disc"><li>This paper needed to be more mathematical and more precise. </li><li>It s all very well saying that there is no preferred reference frame in (special) relativity, but the inter-relationship of the frames is precisely defined by the Lorentz transformations. You can t, I don t think, use this principle in an undefined manner to  explain why quantum entanglement doesn t violate SR. If you could, Einstein would have done so. </li><li>The penultimate paragraph is interesting but very odd in the context  (to my mind) it pushes a phenomenon way out of its scope of applicability (quantum events) into the <U><A HREF="#On-Page_Link_P23297_1">macroscopic world</A></U><SUB>1</SUB><a name="On-Page_Return_P23297_1"></A>. Footnotes are my comments:-<ol type="1"> <FONT COLOR = "800080">Most contemporary philosophical accounts of the relationship between objects and their <U><A HREF="#On-Page_Link_P23297_2">properties embrace entanglement</A></U><SUB>2</SUB><a name="On-Page_Return_P23297_2"></A> solely from the perspective of spatial nonlocality. But there s still significant work to be done on incorporating temporal nonlocality  not only in object-property discussions, but also in debates over <U><A HREF="#On-Page_Link_P23297_3">material composition</A></U><SUB>3</SUB><a name="On-Page_Return_P23297_3"></A> (such as the relation between a <U><A HREF="#On-Page_Link_P23297_4">lump of clay and the statue</A></U><SUB>4</SUB><a name="On-Page_Return_P23297_4"></A> it forms), and <U><A HREF="#On-Page_Link_P23297_5">part-whole relations</A></U><SUB>5</SUB><a name="On-Page_Return_P23297_5"></A> (such as how a hand relates to a limb, or a limb to a person). For example, the  puzzle of how parts fit with an overall whole presumes clear-cut spatial boundaries among underlying components, yet spatial nonlocality cautions against this view. Temporal nonlocality further complicates this picture: how does one describe an entity whose constituent parts are not even coexistent?</FONT> </ol> </li><li>The funding statement at the end was also a bit strange. It seems that the  <U><A HREF="#On-Page_Link_P23297_6">Templeton Religion Trust</A></U><SUB>6</SUB><a name="On-Page_Return_P23297_6"></A> funds Aeon, and Aeon funded the author of this article, so that Templeton indirectly funded the article, though was not involved in the decision to do so, nor in the content approval. I didn t notice any <U><A HREF="#On-Page_Link_P23297_7">religious motivation (positive or negative) in the article</A></U><SUB>7</SUB><a name="On-Page_Return_P23297_7"></A>. </li></ul><hr><FONT COLOR = "0000FF"><B>Comment: </B><BR><BR>See <a name="W6658W"></a><A HREF = "https://aeon.co/ideas/you-thought-quantum-mechanics-was-weird-check-out-entangled-time" TARGET = "_top">Link</A>.<BR><BR><HR><BR><U><B>In-Page Footnotes</U></B><a name="On-Page_Link_P23297_1"></A><BR><BR><U><A HREF="#On-Page_Return_P23297_1"><B>Footnote 1</B></A></U>: <ul type="disc"><li>But see <a name="5"></a>"<A HREF = "../../Abstracts/Abstract_22/Abstract_22815.htm">McFadden (Johnjoe) - Life is quantum</A>". </li></ul><a name="On-Page_Link_P23297_2"></A><U><A HREF="#On-Page_Return_P23297_2"><B>Footnote 2</B></A></U>: <ul type="disc"><li>I d be amazed if discussion of <a name="1"></a><A HREF="../../Notes/Notes_0/Notes_93.htm">properties</a>  embraced entanglement at all  it s the first I ve heard of the connection. </li><li>As noted, any connection between quantum entanglement and macroscopic events and situations seems tenuous and highly speculative. </li><li>I ve no-doubt got lots on this hidden away in books on QM, popular science and otherwise. Explicit references to quantum entanglement from a search of my database revealed:-<BR>&rarr; <a name="6"></a>"<A HREF = "../../Abstracts/Abstract_16/Abstract_16126.htm">Chopra (Deepak) & Hameroff (Stuart) - Can science explain the soul?</A>"<BR>&rarr; <a name="7"></a>"<A HREF = "../../Abstracts/Abstract_20/Abstract_20948.htm">Dainton (Barry) - Time and Space: Preface</A>"<BR>&rarr; <a name="8"></a>"<A HREF = "../../Abstracts/Abstract_23/Abstract_23027.htm">Miller (Kristie) - Causation sans Time</A>"<BR>&rarr; <a name="9"></a>"<A HREF = "../../Abstracts/Abstract_16/Abstract_16121.htm">Papineau (David) - The Importance of Philosophical Intuition</A>"<BR>&rarr; <a name="14"></a>"<A HREF = "../../BookSummaries/BookSummary_00/BookPaperAbstracts/BookPaperAbstracts_134.htm">Penrose (Roger) - Shadows of the Mind</A>"<BR>&rarr; <a name="10"></a>"<A HREF = "../../Abstracts/Abstract_23/Abstract_23310.htm">Price (Huw) & Wharton (Ken) - Taming the quantum spooks</A>"<BR>&rarr; <a name="11"></a>"<A HREF = "../../Abstracts/Abstract_19/Abstract_19716.htm">Ricciardi (Michael) - Schrodinger s  Kitten ? Large-Scale Quantum Entanglement Achieved By Two Physics Labs</A>"<BR>&rarr; <a name="15"></a>"<A HREF = "../../BookSummaries/BookSummary_06/BookPaperAbstracts/BookPaperAbstracts_6594.htm">Smolin (Lee) - Time Reborn: From the Crisis in Physics to the Future of the Universe</A>" <BR>&rarr; <a name="12"></a>"<A HREF = "../../Abstracts/Abstract_15/Abstract_15930.htm">Ward (Keith) - God and Metaphysics</A>"</li></ul><a name="On-Page_Link_P23297_3"></A><U><A HREF="#On-Page_Return_P23297_3"><B>Footnote 3</B></A></U>: <ul type="disc"><li>For Material Composition / Constitution, see this <a name="2"></a><A HREF="../../Notes/Notes_0/Notes_62.htm">Note</a>. </li></ul> <a name="On-Page_Link_P23297_4"></A><U><A HREF="#On-Page_Return_P23297_4"><B>Footnote 4</B></A></U>: <ul type="disc"><li>See this <a name="3"></a><A HREF="../../Notes/Notes_11/Notes_1171.htm">Note</a> for the Statue and the Clay. </li></ul> <a name="On-Page_Link_P23297_5"></A><U><A HREF="#On-Page_Return_P23297_5"><B>Footnote 5</B></A></U>: <ul type="disc"><li>This expression rather amazingly links to <a name="13"></a>"<A HREF = "../../Abstracts/Abstract_22/Abstract_22478.htm">Finn (Suki) - Bun or bump?</A>", which asks the important question whether  the mother contain the <a name="4"></a><A HREF="../../Notes/Notes_0/Notes_71.htm">foetus</a> or is it a part of her? . </li><li>It s possible the link was added by the Editor.</li><li>While the linked paper does deal with part-wholes, what has it to do with atemporal quantum entanglement? </li></ul><a name="On-Page_Link_P23297_6"></A><U><A HREF="#On-Page_Return_P23297_6"><B>Footnote 6</B></A></U>: <ul type="disc"><li>A quick Google reveals that the Templeton foundations are divided into  three charitable entities established by Sir John Templeton. The John Templeton Foundation, the Templeton World Charity Foundation, and the Templeton Religion Trust. While all three organizations have similar aims, they operate as separate charitable entities. (taken from the  about statement of the Templeton World Charity Foundation, <a name="W6677W"></a><A HREF = "https://www.templetonworldcharity.org/about-us" TARGET = "_top">Link</A>, re-ordered).</li><li>See Wikipedia: <a name="W6678W"></a><A HREF = "https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Templeton_Foundation" TARGET = "_top">Link</A>. This refers to the John Templeton Foundation (<a name="W6679W"></a><A HREF = "https://www.templeton.org/" TARGET = "_top">Link</A>) only. It s this organisation that awards the Templeton Prize. I d not heard of the other two. </li></ul><a name="On-Page_Link_P23297_7"></A><U><A HREF="#On-Page_Return_P23297_7"><B>Footnote 7</B></A></U>: <ul type="disc"><li>But it looks like there is a religious connection underneath it all. </li><li>It seems there s a TRT-funded essay prize  Metaphysics of the Trinity as part of Oxford University s <em>Metaphysics of Entanglement project</em>. </li><li>See this <a name="W6680W"></a><A HREF = "https://whyevolutionistrue.wordpress.com/2015/10/13/templeton-jumps-the-shark-again/" TARGET = "_top">Link</A>. Unfortunately, onward links seem to be mostly broken, and I ve not followed all this up further.</li><li>This connection makes me doubt the Aeon editor s protestation of independence. </li></ul> <FONT COLOR = "0000FF"><HR></P><a name="ColourConventions"></a><p><b>Text Colour Conventions (see <A HREF="../../Notes/Notes_10/Notes_1025.htm">disclaimer</a>)</b></p><OL TYPE="1"><LI><FONT COLOR = "0000FF">Blue</FONT>: Text by me; &copy; Theo Todman, 2018</li><LI><FONT COLOR = "800080">Mauve</FONT>: Text by correspondent(s) or other author(s); &copy; the author(s)</li></OL> <BR><HR><BR><CENTER> <TABLE class = "Bridge" WIDTH=950> <TR><TD WIDTH="30%">&copy; Theo Todman, June 2007 - August 2018.</TD> <TD WIDTH="40%">Please address any comments on this page to <A HREF="mailto:theo@theotodman.com">theo@theotodman.com</A>.</TD> <TD WIDTH="30%">File output: <time datetime="2018-08-02T10:05" pubdate>02/08/2018 10:05:32</time> <br><A HREF="../../Notes/Notes_10/Notes_1010.htm">Website Maintenance Dashboard</A></TD></TR> <TD WIDTH="30%"><A HREF="#Top">Return to Top of this Page</A></TD> <TD WIDTH="40%"><A HREF="../../Notes/Notes_11/Notes_1140.htm">Return to Theo Todman's Philosophy Page</A></TD> <TD WIDTH="30%"><A HREF="../../index.htm">Return to Theo Todman's Home Page</A></TD> </TR></TABLE></CENTER><HR> </BODY> </HTML>