Inside Cover Blurb
- The bestselling author of Seven Brief Lessons on Physics takes us on an enchanting journey to discover the meaning of time.
- 'We are time. We are this space, this plain opened by the traces of memory inside the connections between our neurons. We are memory. We are nostalgia. We are longing for a future that will not come.'
- Time is a mystery that does not cease to puzzle us. Philosophers, artists and poets have long explored its meaning while scientists have found that its structure is different from the simple intuition we have of it. From Boltzmann to quantum theory, from Einstein to loop quantum gravity, our understanding of time has been undergoing radical transformations. Time flows at a different speed in different places, the past and the future differ far less than we might think, and the very notion of the present evaporates in the vast universe.
- With his extraordinary charm and sense of wonder, bringing together science, philosophy and art, Carlo Rovelli unravels this mystery. Enlightening and consoling, The Order of Time shows that to understand ourselves we need to reflect on time – and to understand time we need to reflect on ourselves.
- Carlo Rovelli is a theoretical physicist who has made significant contributions to the physics of space and time. He has worked in Italy and the US, and is currently directing the quantum gravity research group of the Centre de physique théorique in Marseille, France. His books – Seven Brief Lessons on Physics and "Rovelli (Carlo) - Reality Is Not What It Seems: The Journey to Quantum Gravity" – are international bestsellers translated into forty-one languages.
Perhaps Time is the Greatest Mystery – 1
- PART ONE: The Crumbling of Time
- Loss of Unity – 9
- Loss of Direction – 18
- The End of the Present – 34
- Loss of Independence – 52
- Quanta of Time – 72
- PART TWO: The World without Time
- The World is Made of Events, not Things – 85
- The Inadequacy of Grammar – 93
- Dynamics as Relation – 102
- PART THREE: The Sources of Time
The Sister of Sleep – 176
- Time is Ignorance – 115
- Perspective – 125
- What Emerges from a Particularity – 138
- The Scent of the Madeleine – 148
- The Sources of Time – 167
Notes – 185
Index – 207
- This book featured on a “Books for the Summer: 2018” reading list created by Charles Leadbeater (Wikipedia: Charles Leadbeater) and forwarded by my daughter Naomi.
- Charles Leadbeater's general introduction on the topic of time was “If there is a theme to this list it is our relationship to time: we often go back in order to go forwards. Progress is rarely a straight line into the future, leaving behind a bad past. Going back is not without its risks however: nostalgia lurks at every turn. Yet increasingly it seems we want a version of progress that incorporates, respects, builds on the past rather than laying it to waste through unforgiving disruptive creative destruction.”
- On this book, his comment was “Let’s start then with Carlo Rovelli’s The Order of Time, an exploration of how our common intuitions about time - that it flows from past to future and in the process we create the memories that tether our identity – are at odds with the quantum science of time. One of Rovelli’s points is that time moves at different speeds in different places. Science supports our sense that how time passes depends on whether we see it.”
- My initial thoughts for Naomi were “I’ve come across Carlo Rovelli on Aeon; not very impressed, and the correct understanding of time is very controversial, so Rovelli’s isn’t that of “science” but just one interpretation.”
- I must add that the thought that “Science supports our sense that how time passes depends on whether we see it” – whatever this might mean1 – sounds like typical liberal-arts confusion, and I hope Rovelli doesn’t encourage it. Rovelli is a physicist, and that statement sounds like one from psychology. That said, one Amazon reviewer complained that he'd been looking for physics, but got philosophy; if so, that's better coming from philosophers.
- This is exemplified in Chapter 13 “The Sources of Time”, reproduced below. The first half of the Chapter is a useful summary of the Book. The latter half is – it seems to me – a vaguely incoherent philosophical ramble.
- See my notes on Time2 and Time Travel3 for extensive reading lists.
In-Page Footnotes ("Rovelli (Carlo) - The Order of Time")
- Having now read the book, I ought to be in a better position to evaluate this claim!
- It doesn’t seem to refer to relativistic time-dilation, whether from GR (gravitational) or SR (kinematic).
- In any case, both these effects – except in exceptional circumstances way outside our normal experience – are two slight to be detected, so science does NOT support any sense we might have about the passage of time; or not the physical science adduced by Rovelli.
- Either way, I thought the book got off to a silly start by suggesting that time runs more slowly on higher ground, as though it would be good for our life expectancy to head for the hills.
- It may refer to Rovelli’s contention that time is something we – as a species – perceive because of our reliance on increasing entropy in order to function.
- But it shouldn’t refer to whatever we – one individual rather than another, in one situation rather than another – happen to notice.
Allen Lane (26 April 2018)
"Rovelli (Carlo) - The Order of Time"
Source: Rovelli (Carlo) - The Order of Time
I’ve reproduced Chapter 13 in full as it’s a good summary of the book as a whole – though it’s not possible to understand the claims – or evaluate them – without reading the book (if then).
Chapter 13 (“The Sources of Time”) Full Text
- We started out with the image of time that is familiar to us; something that flows uniformly and equally throughout the universe, in the course of which all things happen. With the idea that there exists throughout the cosmos a present, a 'now', that constitutes reality. The past for everyone is fixed, is gone, having already happened. The future is open, yet to be determined. Reality flows from the past, through the present, towards the future — and the evolution of things between past and future is intrinsically asymmetrical. This, we thought, is the basic structure of the world.
- This familiar picture has fallen apart, has shown itself to be only an approximation of a much more complex reality.
- A present that is common throughout the whole universe does not exist (Chapter 31). Events are not ordered in pasts, presents and futures; they are only 'partially' ordered. There is a present that is near to us, but nothing that is 'present' in a far-off galaxy. The present is a localized rather than a global phenomenon.
- The difference between past and future does not exist in the elementary equations that govern events in the world (Chapter 22). It issues only from the fact that, in the past, the world found itself subject to a state that, with our blurred take on things, appears particular to us.
- Locally, time passes at different speeds according to where we are and at what speed we ourselves are moving. The closer we are to a mass (Chapter 13), or the faster we move (Chapter 34=1), the more time slows down: there is no single duration between two events; there are many possible ones.
- The rhythms at which time flows are determined by the gravitational field, a real entity with its own dynamic that is described in the equations of Einstein. If we overlook quantum effects, time and space are aspects of a great jelly in which we are immersed (Chapter 45).
- But the world is a quantum one, and gelatinous spacetime is also an approximation. In the elementary' grammar of the world, there is neither space nor time - only processes that transform physical quantities from one to another, from which it is possible to calculate probabilities and relations (Chapter 56). At the most fundamental level that we currently know of, therefore, there is little that resembles time as we experience it. There is no special variable 'time', there is no difference between past and future, there is no spacetime (Part Two). We still know how to write equations that describe the world. In those equations, the variables evolve with respect to each other (Chapter 87). It is not a 'static' world, or a 'block universe' where all change is illusory (Chapter 78): on the contrary, ours is a world of events rather than of things (Chapter 69).
- This was the outward leg of the journey, towards a universe without time.
- The return journey has been the attempt to understand how, from this world without time, it is possible for our perception of time to emerge (Chapter 910). The surprise has been that, in the emergence of familiar aspects of time, we ourselves have had a role to play. From our perspective - the perspective of creatures who make up a small part of the world - we see that world flowing in time. Our interaction with the world is partial, which is why we see it in a blurred way. To this blurring is added quantum indeterminacy. The ignorance that follows from this determines the existence of a particular variable - thermal time (Chapter 911=10) - and of an entropy that quantifies our uncertainty.
- Perhaps we belong to a particular subset of the world that interacts with the rest of it in such a way that this entropy is lower in one direction of our thermal time. The directionality of time is therefore real but perspectival (Chapter 1012): the entropy of the world in relation to us increases with our thermal time. We see the occurrence of things ordered in this variable, which we simply call 'time', and the growth of entropy distinguishes the past from the future for us and leads to the unfolding of the cosmos. It determines the existence of traces, residues and memories of the past (Chapter 1113). We human beings are an effect of this great history of the increase of entropy, held together by the memory that is enabled by these traces. Each one of us is a unified being because we reflect the world, because we have formed an image of a unified entity by interacting with our kind, and because it is a perspective on the world unified by memory (Chapter 1214). From this comes what we call the 'flowing' of time. This is what we are listening to when we listen to the passing of time.
- The variable 'time' is one of many variables which describe the world. It is one of the variables of the gravitational field (Chapter 415=5): at our scale, we do not register quantum fluctuations (Chapter 516=6), hence it is possible to think of spacetime as determined, as Einstein's great mollusc; at our scale, the movements of the mollusc are small and can be overlooked. Hence we can think of spacetime as being as rigid as a table. This table has dimensions: the one that we call space, and the one along which entropy grows, called time. In our everyday life we move at low speeds in relation to the speed of light and so we do not perceive the discrepancies between the different proper times of different clocks, and the differences in speed at which time passes at different distances from a mass are too small for us to distinguish.
- In the end, therefore, instead of many possible times we can speak only of a single time: the time of our experience: uniform, universal and ordered. This is the approximation of an approximation of an approximation of a description of the world made from our particular perspective as human beings who are dependent on the growth of entropy, anchored to the flowing of time. We for whom, as Ecclesiastes has it, there is a time to be born and a time to die.
- This is time for us: a multilayered, complex concept with multiple, distinct properties deriving from various different approximations. Many discussions of the concept of time are confused because they simply do not recognize its complex and multilayered aspect. They make the mistake of not seeing that the different layers are independent.
- This is the physical structure of time as I understand it, after a lifetime of revolving around it.
- Many parts of this story are solid, others plausible, others still are guesses hazarded in an attempt at understanding the whole.
- Practically all the things recounted in the first part of the book have been ascertained from innumerable experiments:
All this has been well ascertained.
- the slowing down of time according to altitude and speed;
- the non-existence of the present;
- the relation between time and the gravitational field;
- the fact that the relations between different times are dynamic, that elementary equations do not recognize the direction of time;
- the relation between entropy and blurring.
- That the gravitational field has quantum properties is a shared conviction, albeit one currently supported only by theoretical arguments rather than by experimental evidence.
- The absence of the time variable from the fundamental equations, as discussed in Part Two, is plausible — but on the form of these equations debate still rages. The origin of time pertaining to quantum noncommutativity, of thermal time, and the fact that the increase in entropy which we observe depends on our interaction with the universe are ideas that I find fascinating but are far from being confirmed or widely accepted.
- What is entirely credible, in any case, is the general fact that the temporal structure of the world is different from the naive image that we have of it. This naive image is suitable for our daily life, but it's not suitable for understanding the world in its minute folds or in its vastness. In all likelihood, it is not even sufficient for understanding our own nature, because the mystery of time intersects with the mystery of our personal identity, with the mystery of consciousness.
- The mystery of time has always troubled us, stirring deep emotions — so deep as to have nourished philosophies and religions.
- I believe, as Hans Reichenbach suggests in one of the most lucid books on the nature of time. The Direction of Time, that it was in order to escape from the anxiety time causes us that Parmenides wanted to deny its existence, that Plato imagined a world of ideas that exist outside of it, and that Hegel speaks of the moment in which the Spirit transcends temporality and knows itself in its plenitude. It is in order to escape this anxiety that we have imagined the existence of ‘eternity’, a strange world outside of time that we would like to be inhabited by gods, by a God or by immortal souls17. Our deeply emotional attitude towards time has contributed more to the construction of cathedrals of philosophy than has logic or reason. The opposite emotional attitude, the veneration of time — by a Heraclitus or a Bergson - has given rise to just as many philosophies, without getting us any nearer to understanding what time is.
- Physics helps us to penetrate layers of the mystery. It shows how the temporal structure of the world is different from our perception of it. It gives us the hope of being able to study the nature of time free from the fog caused by our emotions.
- But in our search for time, advancing increasingly away from ourselves, we have ended up by discovering something about ourselves, perhaps - just as Copernicus, by studying the movements of the heavens, ended up by understanding how the Earth moved beneath his feet. Perhaps, ultimately, the emotional dimension of time is not the film of mist that prevents us from apprehending the nature of time objectively.
- Perhaps the emotion of time is precisely what time is for us.
- I don't think there is much more than this to be understood. We may ask further questions, but we should be careful with questions that it is not possible to formulate properly. When we have found all the aspects of time that can be spoken of, then we have found time. We may gesture clumsily towards an immediate sense of time beyond what we can articulate ('Fine, but why does it "pass?"'), but I believe that at this point we are merely confusing matters, attempting illegitimately to transform approximate words into things. When we cannot formulate a problem with precision, it is often not because the problem is profound: it's because the problem is false.
- Will we be able to understand things better in the future? I think so. Our understanding of nature has increased vertiginously over the course of centuries, and we are continuing to learn. We are glimpsing something about the mystery of time. We can see the world without time: we can perceive with the mind's eye the profound structure of the world where time as we know it no longer exists — like the Fool on the Hill who sees the Earth turn when he sees the setting sun. And we begin to see that we are time. We are this space, this clearing opened by the traces of memory inside the connections between our neurons. We are memory. We are nostalgia. We are longing for a future that will not come. The clearing that is opened up in this way, by memory and by anticipation, is time: a source of anguish sometimes, but in the end a tremendous gift.
- A precious miracle that the infinite play of combinations has unlocked for us, allowing us to exist. We may smile now. We can go back to serenely immersing ourselves in time — in our finite time — to savouring the clear intensity of every fleeting and cherished moment of the brief circle of our existence.
COMMENT: (Soon to be) annotated copy of Chapter 13 filed in "Various - Papers in Desk Drawer".
In-Page Footnotes ("Rovelli (Carlo) - The Order of Time")
Footnotes 1, 4: Chapter 3: The End of the Present.
Footnote 2: Chapter 2: Loss of Direction.
Footnote 3: Chapter 1: Loss of Unity.
Footnotes 5, 15: Chapter 4: Loss of Independence.
Footnotes 6, 16: Chapter 5: Quanta of Time.
Footnote 7: Chapter 8: Dynamics as Relation.
Footnote 8: Chapter 7: The Inadequacy of Grammar.
Footnote 9: Chapter 6: The World is Made of Events, not Things.
Footnotes 10, 11: Chapter 9: Time is Ignorance.
Footnote 12: Chapter 10: Perspective.
Footnote 13: Chapter 11: What Emerges from a Particularity.
Footnote 14: Chapter 12: The Scent of the Madeleine.
- There is something extremely interesting about the fact that this observation by Reichenbach, in a fundamental text for the treatment of time by analytical philosophy, sounds so close to ideas from which Heidegger's reflection stems. The subsequent divergence is enormous: Reichenbach searches in physics for that which we know about time in the world of which we are part, while Heidegger concerns himself with what time is in the existential experience of human beings. The two resultant images of time are completely different from each other. Are they necessarily incompatible? Why should they be? They explore two different problems: on the one hand, the effective temporal structures of the world that reveal themselves to be progressively more threadbare as we widen our gaze; on the other, the foundational aspect that the structure of time has for us, for our concrete sense of ‘being in the world’.
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