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Personal Identity
Homo Sapiens
(Text as at 06/07/2023 00:43:12)
Plug Note1
- Thesis Text:
- If animalism2 is correct – and we are human animals3 – then we are members of the species homo sapiens.
- Consequently, we need to say something about the nature of species, their reality and their status as natural kind4 concepts.
- Also relevant is Stephan Blatti’s “Animal Ancestors” Argument for Animalism (see "Blatti (Stephan) - A New Argument for Animalism", etc.).
- So, we must also investigate human evolution5, and investigate answers to the question of just when our hominid ancestors became persons6.
- I also note the discussions on Neanderthals and their relation to – and possible interbreeding with – modern humans. Were Neanderthals persons7, and were they human persons8, or examples of non-human persons9?
- If this interbreeding was actual – and it is claimed that 4% of the non-African human genome is Neanderthal (see the end of "Kohn (Marek) - The Neanderthal mind") – what has this to say about the status of Neanderthals? If they could interbreed with modern humans and produce fertile offspring, how could they be a separate species to homo sapiens? See "Wikipedia - Neanderthal", where there’s doubt over whether the Neanderthals should be designated Homo neanderthalensis or Homo sapiens neanderthalensis; ie. as a separate species or as a sub-species of modern humans.
- As these ancestors are all gone, investigation of the capacities of our nearest neighbours – the great apes – must often make do as a proxy, though consideration of these will be covered by what I have to say on Animal Rights10.
- I just note here the contentions – in "Diamond (Jared) - The Rise and Fall of the Third Chimpanzee: How Our Animal Heritage Affects the Way We Live" – that the genus “homo” ought to include chimpanzees and gorillas.
- I don’t think it’s a conceptual truth that the only persons are human persons11. However, I do think it’s an empirical truth that the only persons whose personhood we reliably know anything about are human persons, members of the species homo sapiens, so think we should start there.
Further Remarks:
- The two books I have on Neanderthals are rather old, though both get a decent write-up on Amazon:-
- Otherwise, see a couple of “items read” below, and some religious speculation:-
- Finally, some discussion of the evolution12 of language:-
References
- Relevant Works cited above:
- "Alexander (Denis) - Who were Adam and Eve? Genesis and Science in Conversation", 2008, Read
- "Blatti (Stephan) - A New Argument for Animalism", 2012, External Link, Internal PDF Link, Read = 67%
- "Conway Morris (Simon) - Darwin’s Compass: How Evolution Discovers the Song of Creation", 2005, External Link, Read
- "Diamond (Jared) - The Rise and Fall of the Third Chimpanzee: How Our Animal Heritage Affects the Way We Live", 1991, Book, Read = 1%
- "Kohn (Marek) - The Neanderthal mind", 2013, External Link, Internal PDF Link, Read
- "Lieberman (Philip) - Eve Spoke - Human Language and Human Evolution", 1998, Book
- "Roeper (Tom) & Keyser (Samuel Jay) - The Prism of Grammar: Foreward & Preface", 2007, Read
- "Shreeve (James) - The Neanderthal Enigma - Solving the Enigma of Modern Human Origins", 1995, Book
- "Trinkaus (Erik) & Shipman (Pat) - The Neanderthals - Changing the Image of Mankind", 1993, Book
- "Wikipedia - Neanderthal", 2023, External Link, Read = 3%
- For a Page of Links13 to this Note, Click here.
- Works on this topic that I’ve actually read14, include the following:-
- Aeon:
- "Kohn (Marek) - The Neanderthal mind", 2013, External Link, Internal PDF Link
- General:
- "Aaronovitch (David), Harari (Yuval Noah) - Interview with Yuval Noah Harari", 2018, Internal PDF Link
- "Alexander (Denis) - Who were Adam and Eve? Genesis and Science in Conversation", 2008
- "Conway Morris (Simon) - Darwin’s Compass: How Evolution Discovers the Song of Creation", 2005, External Link
- "Conway Morris (Simon) - Life's Solution: Inevitable Humans in a Lonely Universe (Preface)", 2003
- "Harari (Yuval Noah) - Sapiens: A Brief History of Humankind", 2015, Book
- "Krause (Johannes) - Our Ancestral Cave Gets More Crowded", 2010
- "McKie (Robin) - Out of Africa: The Sequel", 2010, Internal PDF Link
- "Olson (Eric) - Human People Or Human Animals", 1995, Annotations, Internal PDF Link
- "Olson (Eric) - The Human Animal - Personal Identity Without Psychology", 1997, Book
- "Roeper (Tom) & Keyser (Samuel Jay) - The Prism of Grammar: Foreward & Preface", 2007
- A further reading list might start with:-
- General:
- "Berry (R.J.) & Noble (T.A.) - Darwin, Creation and the Fall", 2009, Book, Read = 4%
- "Blatti (Stephan) - A New Argument for Animalism", 2012, External Link, Internal PDF Link, Read = 67%
- "De Waal (Frans) - Our Inner Ape: The Best and Worst of Human Nature", 2005, Book, Read = 1%
- "De Waal (Frans) - Primates and Philosophers: How Morality Evolved", 2006, Book, Read = 1%
- "De Waal (Frans) - The Ape and the Sushi Master: Cultural Reflections of a Primatologist", 2001, Book, Read = 7%
- "Diamond (Jared) - The Rise and Fall of the Third Chimpanzee: How Our Animal Heritage Affects the Way We Live", 1991, Book, Read = 1%
- "Eccles (John) - Evolution of the Brain, Creation of the Self", 1991, Book, Read = 2%
- "Ghiselin (Michael) - Metaphysics and the Origin of Species", 1997, Book, Read = 1%
- "Hartl (Daniel L.) - Our Uncertain Heritage: Genetics & Human Diversity", 1985, Book, Read = 1%
- "Johanson (Donald) & Shreeve (James) - Lucy's Child: The Discovery of a Human Ancestor", 1989, Book
- "Kitcher (Patricia) - Natural Kinds and Unnatural Persons", 1979, Internal PDF Link
- "LaPorte (Joseph) - Essential Membership", 1997, Internal PDF Link
- "Lieberman (Philip) - Eve Spoke - Human Language and Human Evolution", 1998, Book
- "Pearce (E.K. Victor) - Review of 'Kanzi: Ape at the Brink of the Human Mind' by Sue Savage-Rumbaugh & Roger Lewin", 1995, Read = 133%
- "Savage-Rumbaugh (E.Sue) & Lewin (Roger) - Kanzi: Ape at the Brink of the Human Mind", 1994, Book, Read = 2%
- "Schick (Kathy D.) & Toth (Nicholas) - Making Silent Stones Speak: Human Evolution and the Dawn of Technology", 1993, Book
- "Shreeve (James) - The Neanderthal Enigma - Solving the Enigma of Modern Human Origins", 1995, Book
- "Suddendorf (Thomas) - The Gap", 2014, Book
- "Tattersall (Ian), Delson (Eric) & Van Couvering (John), Eds. - Encyclopaedia of Human Evolution and Prehistory", 1988, Book
- "Trinkaus (Erik) & Shipman (Pat) - The Neanderthals - Changing the Image of Mankind", 1993, Book
- "Wikipedia - Neanderthal", 2023, External Link, Read = 3%
- "Young (J.Z.) - An Introduction to the Study of Man", 1971, Book
- For a list of Works that have been considered, but have missed the cut for inclusion in this Section of my Thesis, see the following:-
- Read: No items to list.
- Further Reading: No items to list.
- This is mostly a place-holder15.
Table of the Previous 7 Versions of this Note:
Summary of Notes Referenced by This Note
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Summary of Notes Citing This Note
Artifacts |
Baker - Persons in the Material World, 2, 3 |
Baker - The Importance Of Being a Person |
Death |
DeGrazia - Are We Essentially Persons? |
Evolution |
Human Animals, 2 |
Human Beings |
Human Persons |
Non-Human Persons |
Noonan - Persons and Bodies - Response |
Olson - What Are We? Animals, 2 |
Olson - What Are We? The Question |
PID Note, Book & Paper Usage, 2, 3 |
Research - Proposal |
Siliconisation |
Thesis - Chapter 02 (What are We?) |
Thesis - Chapter 03 (What is a Person?), 2 |
Thesis - Chapter 04 (Basic Metaphysical Issues) |
Thesis - Chapter 06 (Animalism and Arguments for It), 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7 |
Thesis - Chapter 11 (Resurrection) |
Thesis - Current Stance |
Website Generator Documentation - Functors, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6 |
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Authors, Books & Papers Citing this Note
Author |
Title |
Medium |
Extra Links |
Read? |
Baker (Lynne Rudder) |
Persons in the Material World |
Paper  |
2, 3 |
Yes |
Baker (Lynne Rudder) |
The Importance Of Being a Person |
Paper  |
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Yes |
Baker (Lynne Rudder) |
When Do Persons Begin and End? |
Paper  |
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Yes |
Cottingham (John) |
Why we are not 'persons' |
Paper  |
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Yes |
Dainton (Barry) |
Self: Philosophy In Transit: Prologue |
Paper  |
|
Yes |
DeGrazia (David) |
Are we essentially persons? Olson, Baker, and a reply |
Paper  |
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Yes |
Hudson (Hud) |
I am Not an Animal! |
Paper  |
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Noonan (Harold) |
Arguments Against Animalism: Comments on L.R.Baker 'Persons & Bodies' |
Paper  |
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Yes |
Olson (Eric) |
What Are We? Animals |
Paper  |
2 |
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Olson (Eric) |
What Are We? The Question |
Paper  |
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Yes |
Todman (Theo) |
Thesis - Artifacts |
Paper  |
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Yes |
Todman (Theo) |
Thesis - Chapter 02 (What Are We?) |
Paper  |
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Yes |
Todman (Theo) |
Thesis - Chapter 03 (What is a Person?) |
Paper  |
2 |
Yes |
Todman (Theo) |
Thesis - Chapter 04 (Basic Metaphysical Issues) |
Paper  |
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Yes |
Todman (Theo) |
Thesis - Chapter 06 (Animalism and Arguments for It) |
Paper  |
2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7 |
Yes |
Todman (Theo) |
Thesis - Chapter 11 (Resurrection) |
Paper  |
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Yes |
Todman (Theo) |
Thesis - Current Position |
Paper  |
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Yes |
Todman (Theo) |
Thesis - Death |
Paper  |
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Yes |
Todman (Theo) |
Thesis - Evolution |
Paper  |
|
Yes |
Todman (Theo) |
Thesis - Human Animals |
Paper  |
2 |
Yes |
Todman (Theo) |
Thesis - Human Beings |
Paper  |
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Yes |
Todman (Theo) |
Thesis - Human Persons |
Paper  |
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Yes |
Todman (Theo) |
Thesis - Non-Human Persons |
Paper  |
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Yes |
Todman (Theo) |
Thesis - Siliconisation |
Paper  |
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Yes |
References & Reading List
Author |
Title |
Medium |
Source |
Read? |
Aaronovitch (David), Harari (Yuval Noah) |
Interview with Yuval Noah Harari |
Paper - Cited  |
Time Magazine, Saturday 4th August 2018 |
Yes |
Alexander (Denis) |
Creation or Evolution: Do We Have to Choose? |
Book - Cited (via Paper Cited)  |
Bibliographical details to be supplied |
Yes |
Alexander (Denis) |
Who were Adam and Eve? Genesis and Science in Conversation |
Paper - Cited  |
Alexander (Denis) - Creation or Evolution: Do We Have to Choose? 2008, Chapter 10 |
Yes |
Berry (R.J.) & Noble (T.A.) |
Darwin, Creation and the Fall |
Book - Cited  |
Berry (R.J.) & Noble (T.A.) - Darwin, Creation and the Fall |
4% |
Blatti (Stephan) |
A New Argument for Animalism |
Paper - Cited  |
Analysis Vol 72, Number 4, October 2012, pp. 685–690 |
33% |
Conway Morris (Simon) |
Darwin’s Compass: How Evolution Discovers the Song of Creation |
Paper - Cited  |
St. Mary Le Bow Website; Robert Boyle Lecture 2005 |
Yes |
Conway Morris (Simon) |
Life's Solution: Inevitable Humans in a Lonely Universe |
Book - Cited (via Paper Cited)  |
Bibliographical details to be supplied |
4% |
Conway Morris (Simon) |
Life's Solution: Inevitable Humans in a Lonely Universe (Preface) |
Paper - Cited  |
Morris (Simon Conway) - Life's Solution: Inevitable Humans in a Lonely Universe, Preface |
Yes |
De Waal (Frans) |
Our Inner Ape: The Best and Worst of Human Nature |
Book - Cited  |
De Waal (Frans) - Our Inner Ape: The Best and Worst of Human Nature |
1% |
Diamond (Jared) |
The Rise and Fall of the Third Chimpanzee: How Our Animal Heritage Affects the Way We Live |
Book - Cited  |
Diamond (Jared) - The Rise and Fall of the Third Chimpanzee: How Our Animal Heritage Affects the Way We Live |
1% |
Harari (Yuval Noah) |
Homo Deus: A Brief History of Tomorrow |
Book - By Subtopic  |
Harari (Yuval Noah) - Homo Deus: A Brief History of Tomorrow |
Yes |
Harari (Yuval Noah) |
Homo Deus: A Brief History of Tomorrow |
Paper - By Subtopic |
Harari (Yuval Noah) - Homo Deus: A Brief History of Tomorrow |
Yes |
Harari (Yuval Noah) |
Sapiens: A Brief History of Humankind |
Book - Cited  |
Harari (Yuval Noah) - Sapiens: A Brief History of Humankind |
Yes |
Harari (Yuval Noah) |
Sapiens: A Brief History of Humankind |
Paper - By Subtopic |
Harari (Yuval Noah) - Sapiens: A Brief History of Humankind |
Yes |
Johanson (Donald) & Shreeve (James) |
Lucy's Child: The Discovery of a Human Ancestor |
Book - By Subtopic  |
Johanson (Donald) & Shreeve (James) - Lucy's Child: The Discovery of a Human Ancestor |
No |
Kohn (Marek) |
The Neanderthal mind |
Paper - Cited  |
Aeon, 15 May 2013 |
Yes |
Krause (Johannes) |
Our Ancestral Cave Gets More Crowded |
Paper - Cited  |
Guardian Weekly, 02/04/2010 |
Yes |
Lieberman (Philip) |
Eve Spoke - Human Language and Human Evolution |
Book - Cited  |
Lieberman (Philip) - Eve Spoke - Human Language and Human Evolution |
No |
McKie (Robin) |
Out of Africa: The Sequel |
Paper - Cited  |
Guardian Weekly, 05/03/2010 (originally from the Observer) |
Yes |
Olson (Eric) |
The Human Animal - Personal Identity Without Psychology |
Book - Cited  |
Olson (Eric) - The Human Animal - Personal Identity Without Psychology |
Yes |
Olson (Eric) |
What are We? A Study of Personal Ontology |
Book - Referencing (via Paper Referencing)  |
Bibliographical details to be supplied |
99% |
Olson (Eric) |
What Are We? Animals |
Paper - Referencing  |
What Are We? A Study in Personal Ontology, Chapter 2 (November 2007: Oxford University Press.) |
81% |
Olson (Eric) |
What Are We? The Question |
Paper - Referencing  |
What Are We? A Study in Personal Ontology, Chapter 1 (November 2007: Oxford University Press.) |
Yes |
Roeper (Tom) |
The Prism of Grammar: How Child Language Illuminates Humanism |
Book - Cited (via Paper Cited)  |
Bibliographical details to be supplied |
6% |
Roeper (Tom) & Keyser (Samuel Jay) |
The Prism of Grammar: Foreward & Preface |
Paper - Cited  |
Roeper (Tom) - The Prism of Grammar: How Child Language Illuminates Humanism, 2007 |
Yes |
Savage-Rumbaugh (E.Sue) & Lewin (Roger) |
Kanzi: Ape at the Brink of the Human Mind |
Book - By Subtopic  |
Savage-Rumbaugh (E.Sue) & Lewin (Roger) - Kanzi: Ape at the Brink of the Human Mind |
2% |
Schick (Kathy D.) & Toth (Nicholas) |
Making Silent Stones Speak: Human Evolution and the Dawn of Technology |
Book - By Subtopic  |
Schick (Kathy D.) & Toth (Nicholas) - Making Silent Stones Speak: Human Evolution and the Dawn of Technology |
No |
Shreeve (James) |
The Neanderthal Enigma - Solving the Enigma of Modern Human Origins |
Book - Cited  |
Shreeve (James) - The Neanderthal Enigma - Solving the Enigma of Modern Human Origins |
No |
Tattersall (Ian), Delson (Eric) & Van Couvering (John), Eds. |
Encyclopaedia of Human Evolution and Prehistory |
Book - By Subtopic  |
Tattersall (Ian), Delson (Eric) & Van Couvering (John), Eds. - Encyclopaedia of Human Evolution and Prehistory |
No |
Tattersall (Ian), Delson (Eric) & Van Couvering (John), Eds. |
Encyclopaedia of Human Evolution and Prehistory |
Paper - By Subtopic |
Tattersall, Delson & Van Couvering - Encyclopaedia of Human Evolution and Prehistory |
No |
Todman (Theo) |
Thesis - Homo Sapiens |
Paper - By Subtopic  |
|
Yes |
Trinkaus (Erik) & Shipman (Pat) |
The Neanderthals - Changing the Image of Mankind |
Book - Cited  |
Trinkaus (Erik) & Shipman (Pat) - The Neanderthals - Changing the Image of Mankind |
No |
Wikipedia |
Neanderthal |
Paper - Cited  |
Wikipedia; Extract taken 27 March 2023 |
3% |
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