<!DOCTYPE html><HTML lang="en"> <head> <meta charset="utf-8"> <link href="../../TheosStyle.css" rel="stylesheet" type="text/css"><link rel="shortcut icon" href="../../TT_ICO.png" /> <title>Note: Personal Identity - Clinical Observations (Theo Todman's Web Page)</title> </head><body> <a name="Top"></a> <h1>Theo Todman's Web Page - Notes Pages</h1><hr><h2>Personal Identity</h2><h3>Clinical Observations</h3><p class = "Centered">(Text as at 10/04/2017 23:38:24)<br><br>(For earlier versions of this Note, <a href="#TableOfPreviousVersions">see the table at the end</a>)</p><hr> <P><FONT COLOR = "0000FF"><u><U><A HREF="#On-Page_Link_31_1">Plug Note</A></U><SUB>1</SUB><a name="On-Page_Return_31_1"></A></u><ul type="disc"><li>Clinical observations may be a better guides than <a name="1"></a><A HREF = "../Notes_0/Notes_32.htm">thought experiments</A><SUP>2</SUP> as test cases for our theories of personal identity, because at least we know they represent a real possibility. <ul type="square"><li>One of the main objections to TEs is that they are underspecified and confused. </li><li>However, even with actual clinical observation, we still have the trouble of the correct <U>interpretation</U> of the clinical data, which affects the conclusions we can draw from it. </li><li>See <a name="18"></a>"<A HREF = "../../BookSummaries/BookSummary_02/BookPaperAbstracts/BookPaperAbstracts_2713.htm">Wegner (Daniel) - The Illusion of Conscious Will</A>" for the sort of controversy that arises in these circumstances. <BR>&rarr; [I need to explain this a bit further!] </li></ul></li><li>Examples of relevant clinical cases are <BR>&rarr; <a name="2"></a><A HREF = "../Notes_1/Notes_116.htm">Commissurotomy patients</A><SUP>3</SUP> and <BR>&rarr; Those with <a name="3"></a><A HREF = "../Notes_0/Notes_86.htm">Multiple Personality Disorder</A><SUP>4</SUP> (MPD). <BR>Is a commissurotomy or MPD patient  home to one or two persons? </li><li>I argue elsewhere (<a name="4"></a><A HREF = "../Notes_7/Notes_737.htm">where</A><SUP>5</SUP>?) that PATIENT  like <a name="5"></a><A HREF = "../Notes_0/Notes_9.htm">PERSON</A><SUP>6</SUP>  is a <a name="6"></a><A HREF = "../Notes_0/Notes_29.htm">Phase Sortal</A><SUP>7</SUP> of the <a name="7"></a><A HREF = "../Notes_0/Notes_10.htm">Ultimate Sortal</A><SUP>8</SUP> <a name="8"></a><A HREF = "../Notes_0/Notes_74.htm">HUMAN BEING</A><SUP>9</SUP>. <ul type="square"><li>One human being can simultaneously be multiple patients (dental and chiropody, for instance), or a multiply-enrolled student. </li><li>Does this situation mirror those of our more seriously damaged human beings? </li></ul></li><li>One thing can t be two things (in the sense of  be identical to ), even if the two things are of a different <a name="9"></a><A HREF = "../Notes_0/Notes_80.htm">kind</A><SUP>10</SUP> to the one thing. <ul type="square"><li>The <a name="10"></a><A HREF = "../Notes_0/Notes_12.htm">logic of identity</A><SUP>11</SUP> would force the  two things to be identical. </li><li>But the Phase Sortal approach doesn t force this violation of logic, so could a human being with split personality literally be the home of two, or three, or seven different thinking beings? <U><A HREF="#On-Page_Link_31_12">(Wilkes</A></U><SUB>12</SUB><a name="On-Page_Return_31_12"></A>). </li><li>I m inclined to say  yes , but what impact does that have on <a name="11"></a><A HREF = "../Notes_0/Notes_24.htm">animalism</A><SUP>13</SUP>? </li></ul></li><li>This topic (and its reading list) overlaps with several others, some of which have already been mentioned:- <ul type="square"> <li><a name="12"></a><A HREF = "../Notes_1/Notes_116.htm">Commissurotomy</A><SUP>14</SUP>, </li><li><a name="13"></a><A HREF = "../Notes_0/Notes_68.htm">Dicephalus</A><SUP>15</SUP>,</li><li><a name="14"></a><A HREF = "../Notes_0/Notes_86.htm">Multiple Personality Disorder</A><SUP>16</SUP>,</li><li><a name="15"></a><A HREF = "../Notes_1/Notes_119.htm">Psychopathology</A><SUP>17</SUP>. </li></ul></li><li>Currently, there is no categorised reading-list for this topic. A reading list would be mostly covered by the above Notes. Currently I can otherwise only think of:- <ol type="i"><li><a name="17"></a>"<A HREF = "../../Abstracts/Abstract_01/Abstract_1393.htm">Harris (Henry) - An Experimentalist Looks at Identity</A>", Harris, 1995</li></ol></li><li>This is mostly a <a name="16"></a><A HREF = "../Notes_7/Notes_737.htm">place-holder</A><SUP>18</SUP>. </li></ul></P> <FONT COLOR = "0000FF"><BR><HR><h3 class = "Left">In-Page Footnotes:</h3><a name="On-Page_Link_31_1"></A><U><A HREF="#On-Page_Return_31_1"><B>Footnote 1</B></A></U>: <ul type="disc"><li>A number of my philosophical Notes are  promissory notes currently only listing the books and papers (if any) I possess on the topic concerned. </li><li>I ve decided to add some text  whether by way of motivation, or something more substantive  for all these identified topics related to my Thesis.</li><li>As I want to do this fairly quickly, the text may be confused or show surprising ignorance. </li><li>The reader (if such exists) will have to bear with me, and display the principle of charity while this footnote exists. </li></ul><a name="On-Page_Link_31_12"></A><U><A HREF="#On-Page_Return_31_12"><B>Footnote 12</B></A></U>: Presumably in +BB+. </center><br> <br><hr><h3 class = "Left">Printable Versions:</h3> <UL><li>Follow (<A Href="Notes_Print/NotesPrint_31_0_P_R.htm" TARGET = "_top">this link</A>) for level 0 (with reading list), and </li><li>Follow (<A Href="Notes_Print/NotesPrint_31_0_P.htm" TARGET = "_top">this link</A>) for level 0, and </li><li>Follow (<A Href="Notes_Print/NotesPrint_31_1_P.htm" TARGET = "_top">this link</A>) for level 1.</li></UL> <a name="TableOfPreviousVersions"></a><BR><HR><h3 class= "Left">Table of the Previous 4 Versions of this Note:</h3> <TABLE class = "ReadingList" WIDTH=700> <TR><TD WIDTH="20%" class = "BridgeCenter"><strong>Date</strong></TD> <TD WIDTH="10%" class = "BridgeRight"><strong>Length</strong></TD> <TD WIDTH="70%" class = "BridgeLeft"><strong>Title</strong></TD></TR> <TR><TD class = "BridgeCenter">18/08/2009 21:11:31</TD> <TD class = "BridgeRight">1644</TD> <TD class = "BridgeLeft"><A HREF = "Notes_31_40043883.htm">Clinical Observations</A></TD></TR> <TR><TD class = "BridgeCenter">18/08/2009 20:39:50</TD> <TD class = "BridgeRight">1389</TD> <TD class = "BridgeLeft"><A HREF = "Notes_31_40043861.htm">Clinical Observations</A></TD></TR> <TR><TD class = "BridgeCenter">26/11/2007 23:25:26</TD> <TD class = "BridgeRight">1389</TD> <TD class = "BridgeLeft"><A HREF = "Notes_31_39412976.htm">Clinical Observations</A></TD></TR> <TR><TD class = "BridgeCenter">12/08/2007 10:17:46</TD> <TD class = "BridgeRight">991</TD> <TD class = "BridgeLeft"><A HREF = "Notes_31_39306429.htm">Clinical Observations</A></TD></TR> </TABLE> <BR><HR><BR><CENTER><TABLE class = "Bridge" WIDTH=950><TR> <TH WIDTH="25%">Note last updated</TH> <TH WIDTH="50%">Reading List for this Topic</TH> <TH WIDTH="25%">Parent Topic</TH></TR> <TR><TD WIDTH="25%">10/04/2017 23:38:24</TD> <TD WIDTH="50%"><A HREF = "../../PaperCatalogIdentityFullSubTopic_407.htm" TARGET = "_top">Clinical Observations</A></TD> <TD WIDTH="25%"><A href ="../../Notes/Notes_0/Notes_32.htm">Thought Experiments</A></TD></TR> </TABLE></center> <hr><h3>Summary of Note Links from this Page</h3> <CENTER> <TABLE Class = "Bridge" WIDTH=950> <TR> <td bgcolor="#e6ecff" WIDTH="20%"><A href = "../../Notes/Notes_0/Notes_24.htm"><span title="Plug Note - 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