<!DOCTYPE html><HTML lang="en"> <head> <meta charset="utf-8"> <link href="../../TheosStyle.css" rel="stylesheet" type="text/css"><link rel="shortcut icon" href="../../TT_ICO.png" /> <title>Note: Blog - Simon (Theo Todman's Web Page)</title> </head><body> <a name="Top"></a> <h1>Theo Todman's Web Page - Notes Pages</h1><hr><h2>Blog</h2><h3>Simon</h3><CENTER>(CORRESPONDENT'S COMMENTS)</CENTER><p class = "Centered">(Text as at 12/08/2007 10:17:46)<hr> <P><FONT COLOR = "800080">Dear Theo,<BR><BR>I was thinking of you the other day when I was having a spirited debate with my 16year old daughter, Rebecca, about altruism and religion. Although I ve been atheist as long as I can remember, and my wife has been agnostic, Rebecca  found Christianity in the form of the US Presbyterian church a few years ago and has fully immersed herself into it. It s a little ironic, because as a political  Libertarian , I happily defend her right to 'be' anything she wants, but I can t help myself from being a bit cynical on the religious front especially living in the US during this age of TV-evangelism, which includes our President with his fundamentalist cronies.<BR><BR>As usual our discussion veered off into a basic argument on providing proof on God s existence, and your  Tractatus sprang to my mind. My daughter s view seems to be that:  if you can t prove he doesn t exist, then he must exist . Of course my position is the exact opposite. Having reached stalemate on that front, the more interesting question is  why do so many people need to believe in something ? I have never felt this  need , being content with:  when I m dead, I m dead . But anyway our argument stalls at my sudden childish desire to have a fish symbol with legs as a bumper sticker  of course it s deliberately antagonistic.<BR><BR> But back to the argument& So we get to her point:  If people didn t believe in God and heaven and hell then they d all do bad things . Now this is more like it. The question then circles back to altruism and whether we are able to sustain any form of civilization without a  greater power keeping us in fear and hence in check? I offer:  Well I m atheist and I don t murder or rob people? , to which she delivers her best counter-argument:  Well not everyone is like you, Daddy & And that Theo, is where my argument for spreading atheism breaks down& not on the question of whether God exists or not, but on whether [a] God is needed, to ensure order and ultimately our survival.<BR><BR>So I do hope that you have been able to progress your argument further and haven t pulled a  360 . I especially need you to recommend a book with a title such as:  Daddy, are you going to hell because you don t believe in God? I could put it on the bookshelf next to:  Stay out of my life, but first can you drive me to the church? !<BR><BR>Simon (2<SUP>nd</SUP> January 2007)<BR><BR>Theo s <a name="1"></a><A HREF = "../Notes_3/Notes_396.htm">Response</A><SUP>1</SUP>.</P> <br><hr><h3 class = "Left">Printable Version:</h3> <UL><li>Follow (<A Href="Notes_Print/NotesPrint_395_4_P.htm" TARGET = "_top">this link</A>) for level 4.</li></UL> <BR><HR><BR><CENTER><TABLE class = "Bridge" WIDTH=950><TR> <TH WIDTH="25%">Note last updated</TH> <TH WIDTH="50%">Reference for this Topic</TH> <TH WIDTH="25%">Parent Topic</TH></TR> <TR><TD WIDTH="25%">12/08/2007 10:17:46</TD> <TD WIDTH="50%">395 (Simon)</TD> <TD WIDTH="25%">None</TD></TR> </TABLE></center> <hr><h3>Summary of Note Links from this Page</h3> <CENTER> <TABLE Class = "Bridge" WIDTH=950> <TR> <td bgcolor="#b3ffb3" WIDTH="20%"><A href = "../../Notes/Notes_3/Notes_396.htm"><span title="High Quality">Simon - T1</span></A></TD> <TD WIDTH="20%">&nbsp;</TD> <TD WIDTH="20%">&nbsp;</TD> <TD WIDTH="20%">&nbsp;</TD> <TD WIDTH="20%">&nbsp;</TD> </TR> </TABLE> </CENTER> <P class = "Centered">To access information, click on one of the links in the table above.</P> <BR><HR><BR><h3>Summary of Note Links to this Page</h3> <CENTER> <TABLE Class = "Bridge" WIDTH=950> <TR> <td bgcolor="#ffff4d" WIDTH="20%"><A href = "../../Notes/Notes_8/Notes_823.htm#5"><span title="Medium Quality">Status: Philosophy of Religion (Summary of Progress to Date)</span></A></TD> <td bgcolor="#b3ffb3" WIDTH="20%"><A href = "../../Notes/Notes_2/Notes_268.htm#25"><span title="High Quality">Theo Todman's Blog</span></A></TD> <TD WIDTH="20%">&nbsp;</TD> <TD WIDTH="20%">&nbsp;</TD> <TD WIDTH="20%">&nbsp;</TD> </TR> </TABLE> </CENTER> <P class = "Centered">To access information, click on one of the links in the table above.</P> <a name="ColourConventions"></a><br><hr><br><h3 class = "Left">Text Colour Conventions</h3><OL TYPE="1"><li><FONT COLOR = "000000">Black</FONT>: Printable Text by me; &copy; Theo Todman, 2018</li><li><FONT COLOR = "800080">Mauve</FONT>: Text by correspondent(s) or other author(s); &copy; the author(s)</li></OL><BR> <center><BR><HR><BR><TABLE class = "Bridge" WIDTH=950><TR><TD WIDTH="30%">&copy; Theo Todman, June 2007 - August 2018.</TD><TD WIDTH="40%">Please address any comments on this page to <A HREF="mailto:theo@theotodman.com">theo@theotodman.com</A>.</TD><TD WIDTH="30%">File output: <time datetime="2018-08-06T09:45" pubdate>06/08/2018 09:45:45</time> <br><A HREF="../../Notes/Notes_10/Notes_1010.htm">Website Maintenance Dashboard</A></TD></TR><TD WIDTH="30%"><A HREF="#Top">Return to Top of this Page</A></TD><TD WIDTH="40%"><A HREF="../../Notes/Notes_11/Notes_1140.htm">Return to Theo Todman's Philosophy Page</A></TD><TD WIDTH="30%"><A HREF="../../index.htm">Return to Theo Todman's Home Page</A></TD></TR></TABLE></CENTER><HR></BODY></HTML>