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It s not as though I was thinking whether I could get away with falling away in the moral sense and living a life of Riley on the premise that everything would be all right  up there . I rather think that the NT teaching is that those who know the truth but don t act on it are in for a good thrashing (in some spiritual sense; see Luke 12:47). No doubt there s some dispensational way of weaselling out of this implication. <BR><BR>However, you can t decide not to believe because you believe you have security of salvation; or at least not logically. Maybe if one believed in eternal conscious torment as punishment for reprobation, one might be frightened into not <U>admitting</U> your doubts, but this fear can t stop you entertaining them.<BR><BR>However, you may have a point because I have admitted to an affinity with <a name="1"></a><A HREF = "../Notes_2/Notes_295.htm">Aher</A><SUP>1</SUP>, and that  the Lord knows those that are his , so ultimately I do have a conditional belief that if Christianity is true, then I ll probably be all right, if I ever was all right. But I ve always rejected Pascal s <a name="2"></a><A HREF = "../Notes_1/Notes_190.htm">Wager</A><SUP>2</SUP> which assumes beliefs can be adopted or dropped at will, or should prudentially be adopted or rejected according to the consequences.</P> <a name="TableOfPreviousVersions"></a><BR><HR><h3 class= "Left">Table of the Previous 2 Versions of this Note:</h3> <TABLE class = "ReadingList" WIDTH=700> <TR><TD WIDTH="20%" class = "BridgeCenter"><strong>Date</strong></TD> <TD WIDTH="10%" class = "BridgeRight"><strong>Length</strong></TD> <TD WIDTH="70%" class = "BridgeLeft"><strong>Title</strong></TD></TR> <TR><TD class = "BridgeCenter">08/09/2007 16:55:12</TD> <TD class = "BridgeRight">1501</TD> <TD class = "BridgeLeft"><A HREF = "Notes_574_39333705.htm">Did I believe in security of salvation?</A></TD></TR> <TR><TD class = "BridgeCenter">06/09/2007 00:14:24</TD> <TD class = "BridgeRight">44</TD> <TD class = "BridgeLeft"><A HREF = "Notes_574_39331010.htm">Did I believe in security of salvation?</A></TD></TR> </TABLE> <BR><HR><BR><CENTER><TABLE class = "Bridge" WIDTH=950><TR> <TH WIDTH="25%">Note last updated</TH> <TH WIDTH="50%">Reading List for this Topic</TH> <TH WIDTH="25%">Parent Topic</TH></TR> <TR><TD WIDTH="25%">18/09/2007 23:48:29</TD> <TD WIDTH="50%">None available</TD> <TD WIDTH="25%"><A href ="../../Notes/Notes_5/Notes_551.htm">Sylvia's Questions</A></TD></TR> </TABLE></center> <hr><h3>Summary of Note Links from this Page</h3> <CENTER> <TABLE Class = "Bridge" WIDTH=950> <TR> <td bgcolor="#ffcccc" WIDTH="20%"><A href = "../../Notes/Notes_2/Notes_295.htm"><span title="Low Quality">Aher</span></A></TD> <td bgcolor="#ffcccc" WIDTH="20%"><A href = "../../Notes/Notes_1/Notes_190.htm"><span title="Low Quality">Pascal's Wager</span></A></TD> <TD WIDTH="20%">&nbsp;</TD> <TD WIDTH="20%">&nbsp;</TD> <TD WIDTH="20%">&nbsp;</TD> </TR> </TABLE> </CENTER> <P class = "Centered">To access information, click on one of the links in the table above.</P> <BR><HR><BR><h3>Summary of Note Links to this Page</h3> <CENTER> <TABLE Class = "Bridge" WIDTH=950> <TR> <td bgcolor="#ffcccc" WIDTH="20%"><A href = "../../Notes/Notes_5/Notes_551.htm#3"><span title="Low Quality">Sylvia's Questions</span></A></TD> <TD WIDTH="20%">&nbsp;</TD> <TD WIDTH="20%">&nbsp;</TD> <TD WIDTH="20%">&nbsp;</TD> <TD WIDTH="20%">&nbsp;</TD> </TR> </TABLE> </CENTER> <P class = "Centered">To access information, click on one of the links in the table above.</P> <a name="ColourConventions"></a><br><hr><br><h3 class = "Left">Text Colour Conventions</h3><OL TYPE="1"><li><FONT COLOR = "0000FF">Blue</FONT>: Text by me; &copy; Theo Todman, 2018</li></OL><BR> <center><BR><HR><BR><TABLE class = "Bridge" WIDTH=950><TR><TD WIDTH="30%">&copy; Theo Todman, June 2007 - August 2018.</TD><TD WIDTH="40%">Please address any comments on this page to <A HREF="mailto:theo@theotodman.com">theo@theotodman.com</A>.</TD><TD WIDTH="30%">File output: <time datetime="2018-08-01T03:32" pubdate>01/08/2018 03:32:05</time> <br><A HREF="../../Notes/Notes_10/Notes_1010.htm">Website Maintenance Dashboard</A></TD></TR><TD WIDTH="30%"><A HREF="#Top">Return to Top of this Page</A></TD><TD WIDTH="40%"><A HREF="../../Notes/Notes_11/Notes_1140.htm">Return to Theo Todman's Philosophy Page</A></TD><TD WIDTH="30%"><A HREF="../../index.htm">Return to Theo Todman's Home Page</A></TD></TR></TABLE></CENTER><HR></BODY></HTML>