<!DOCTYPE html><HTML lang="en"> <head> <meta charset="utf-8"> <link href="../../TheosStyle.css" rel="stylesheet" type="text/css"><link rel="shortcut icon" href="../../TT_ICO.png" /> <title>Note: Heythrop - Heythrop - Religion and Naturalism Conference (Theo Todman's Web Page)</title> </head><body> <a name="Top"></a> <h1>Theo Todman's Web Page - Notes Pages</h1><hr><h2>Heythrop</h2><h3>Heythrop - Religion and Naturalism Conference</h3><p class = "Centered">(Text as at 18/12/2010 12:00:00)<br><br>(For earlier versions of this Note, <a href="#TableOfPreviousVersions">see the table at the end</a>)</p><hr> <P><FONT COLOR = "0000FF">I attended the one-day conference on <I>Religion and Naturalism</I> and Heythrop on 12th June 2010. These events always promise more than they can deliver as far as settling (or even airing) the issues are concerned. However, it s good to see philosophers and theologians in action, and  provided the event is properly followed up  is a good stimulus for further thought. What I think is fatal is just to pass on to the next thing; for then  in a few weeks  and lessons to be learnt will be lost. <BR><BR>In order to establish a jumping-off point, I ve filched (part of) the programme notes from the Heythrop website. The original version, a generic link, has now disappeared. <BR><BR><U>Religion and Naturalism - 12th June 2010</U><ol type="1"><li><B>Motivating Introduction</B>: The <I>Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy</I> defines ontological naturalism as the assertion that reality has no place for supernatural or other  spooky kinds of entity. Much of current philosophy operates within a naturalist paradigm, and therefore starts from a position that seems inherently hostile to traditional religion. How should defenders of religion respond to the naturalist challenge? Is naturalism a coherent outlook, or is it an illegitimate attempt to extend the scope of science to the whole of reality? Is a theistic worldview  in its implications for ethics, for psychology, for cosmology  on a collision course with naturalism? The distinguished speakers at this one-day conference, organized by the Centre for the Philosophy of Religion at Heythrop College, University of London, will be debating an issue that has become central to contemporary philosophy of religion. </li><li><B>Programme</B>: To encourage a lively and productive debate, each session has one speaker who is broadly sympathetic to the naturalistic outlook and one who favours a theistic position. In each ninety minute session each speaker will talk for thirty minutes and the discussion will then be opened to the floor for a final thirty minutes. To conclude the conference, there will be a round table discussion involving all six speakers, with the opportunity for further comments and questions from the floor. <ul type="disc"><li><B>Session 1</B>: </I>Naturalism and Metaphysics</I><BR>Paul Snowdon (<a name="W184W"></a><A HREF = "http://www.ucl.ac.uk/philosophy/academic-research/staff-ps.htm" TARGET = "_top">Link</A> (Defunct)) and Keith Ward (<a name="W5970W"></a><A HREF = "https://www.keithward.org.uk/" TARGET = "_top">Link</A>)</li><li><B>Session 2</B>: <I>Naturalism and Mind</I> <BR>David Papineau (<a name="W186W"></a><A HREF = "https://www.kcl.ac.uk/artshums/depts/philosophy/people/staff/academic/papineau/index.aspx" TARGET = "_top">Link</A>) and John Haldane (<a name="W187W"></a><A HREF = "https://www.st-andrews.ac.uk/~jjh1/" TARGET = "_top">Link</A>) </li><li><B>Session 3</B>: <I>Naturalism and Ethics</I><BR>Simon Blackburn (<a name="W2553W"></a><A HREF = "http://www2.phil.cam.ac.uk/~swb24/" TARGET = "_top">Link</A>) and Fiona Ellis (<a name="W189W"></a><A HREF = "http://www.heythrop.ac.uk/about-us/college-staff/academic-staff/dr-fiona-ellis.html" TARGET = "_top">Link</A> (Defunct))</li><li><B>Session 4</B>: <I>Reflections and Conclusions</I><BR>Round Table Discussion introduced by John Cottingham (<a name="W190W"></a><A HREF = "http://www.johncottingham.co.uk/" TARGET = "_top">Link</A> (Defunct)) </li></ul></li></ol> I have to admit to having skipped the final round-table session. <BR><BR><U>Handouts</U><BR>There were four, as follows:- <ol type="1"><li><a name="10"></a>"<A HREF = "../../Abstracts/Abstract_15/Abstract_15930.htm">Ward (Keith) - God and Metaphysics</A>",</li><li><a name="11"></a>"<A HREF = "../../Abstracts/Abstract_15/Abstract_15931.htm">Papineau (David) - The Argument for Naturalism about the Mind</A>",</li><li><a name="12"></a>"<A HREF = "../../Abstracts/Abstract_15/Abstract_15932.htm">Haldane (John) - Naturalism and Mind</A>",</li><li><a name="13"></a>"<A HREF = "../../Abstracts/Abstract_15/Abstract_15933.htm">Ellis (Fiona) - Naturalism and Value (Take 2)</A>".</li></ol><BR><U>Talks</U><BR><BR>I took notes, that started off more or less verbatim, particularly for speakers without hand-outs, but eventually I got tired:- <ol type="1"><li>Paul <a name="1"></a><A HREF = "../Notes_9/Notes_914.htm">Snowdon</A><SUP>1</SUP>,</li><li>Keith <a name="2"></a><A HREF = "../Notes_9/Notes_915.htm">Ward</A><SUP>2</SUP>,</li><li>Snowdon / Ward <a name="3"></a><A HREF = "../Notes_9/Notes_921.htm">Q&A</A><SUP>3</SUP>,</li><li>David <a name="4"></a><A HREF = "../Notes_9/Notes_916.htm">Papineau</A><SUP>4</SUP>,</li><li>John <a name="5"></a><A HREF = "../Notes_9/Notes_917.htm">Haldane</A><SUP>5</SUP>,</li><li>Papineau / Haldane <a name="6"></a><A HREF = "../Notes_9/Notes_922.htm">Q&A</A><SUP>6</SUP>,</li><li>Simon <a name="7"></a><A HREF = "../Notes_9/Notes_918.htm">Blackburn</A><SUP>7</SUP>,</li><li>Fiona <a name="8"></a><A HREF = "../Notes_9/Notes_919.htm">Ellis</A><SUP>8</SUP>,</li><li>Blackburn / Ellis <a name="9"></a><A HREF = "../Notes_9/Notes_923.htm">Q&A</A><SUP>9</SUP>. </li></ol><BR><U>General Thoughts</U><ol type="1"><li>My comments (or intended comments) on the papers delivered can be found by following the links above. Here, I restrict myself to some general (and probably unsound) animadversions.</li><li>The conference was conducted  and this was remarked upon by speakers on both sides of the theism / atheism divide  in a constructive and courteous manner. The atheists presented their case and challenged the theists to show that there s more to it all. I was not convinced that the theists rose to this challenge very successfully. </li><li>Except in the third debate, the contenders (on paper at least) would seem to be fairly evenly matched. The presentation style and clarity of the atheists was uniformly excellent.</li><li>Unfortunately, it seemed to me that  despite his eminence as a theologian  Keith Ward isn t a philosopher, and his talk was rather woolly. </li><li>Also, John Haldane  despite being a distinguished philosopher (it seems)  gave the impression of overconfidence and of occupying the high ground. He didn t follow his handout fully  skipping the bulk of it that allegedly contained his strongest arguments. If you weren t up to speed on the arguments against physicalism in the philosophy of mind, you d have had little idea what his objection was (or might be). </li><li>I thought that Simon Blackburn s talk on naturalised ethics was open to objection. There was a little bit of prodding as to just why he was justified in saying that certain things he agreed were wrong were indeed wrong (if the function of morality is only one of social cohesion), but the prodding stopped short of the Paxmanesque.</li><li>Fiona Ellis was put in a difficult position following Gerry Hughes s (<a name="W191W"></a><A HREF = "http://www.jesuit.org.uk/profile/gerard-w-hughes-sj" TARGET = "_top">Link</A>) reference to her opponent as one of the most famous philosophers in the world. She read (the full version of) her paper quite clearly, but I couldn t really fathom her message, especially as she ended up implying that she and Simon Blackburn were in substantive agreement. </li></ol></P> <br><hr><h3 class = "Left">Printable Versions:</h3> <UL><li>Follow (<A Href="Notes_Print/NotesPrint_913_0_P_R.htm" TARGET = "_top">this link</A>) for level 0 (with reading list), and </li><li>Follow (<A Href="Notes_Print/NotesPrint_913_1_P.htm" TARGET = "_top">this link</A>) for level 1.</li></UL> <a name="TableOfPreviousVersions"></a><BR><HR><h3 class= "Left">Table of the Previous 4 Versions of this Note:</h3> <TABLE class = "ReadingList" WIDTH=700> <TR><TD WIDTH="20%" class = "BridgeCenter"><strong>Date</strong></TD> <TD WIDTH="10%" class = "BridgeRight"><strong>Length</strong></TD> <TD WIDTH="70%" class = "BridgeLeft"><strong>Title</strong></TD></TR> <TR><TD class = "BridgeCenter">13/06/2010 17:24:00</TD> <TD class = "BridgeRight">4845</TD> <TD class = "BridgeLeft"><A HREF = "Notes_913_40342725.htm">Heythrop - 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