<!DOCTYPE html><HTML lang="en"> <head> <meta charset="utf-8"> <link href="../../TheosStyle.css" rel="stylesheet" type="text/css"><link rel="shortcut icon" href="../../TT_ICO.png" /> <title>Note: Animadversions - Blackburn - Naturalism and Ethics (Theo Todman's Web Page)</title> </head><body> <a name="Top"></a> <h1>Theo Todman's Web Page - Notes Pages</h1><hr><h2>Animadversions</h2><h3>Blackburn - Naturalism and Ethics</h3><p class = "Centered">(Text as at 18/12/2010 19:58:05)<br><br>(For earlier versions of this Note, <a href="#TableOfPreviousVersions">see the table at the end</a>)</p><hr> <P><FONT COLOR = "0000FF"><ol type="1"><li>Blackburn had no hand-out. My notes are not very enlightening on many points. </li><li><B>Religion and Ethics</B>: we have a metaphysical debate about religion. Has it anything to do with ethics? </li><li> <B>Hotel Supernatural</B> : check in and out  no more baggage out than in. What do we get out? God speaks in different voices. Believers pick and mix, using their own judgement. </li><li><a name="1"></a>"<A HREF = "../../BookSummaries/BookSummary_03/BookPaperAbstracts/BookPaperAbstracts_3801.htm">Durkheim (Emile), Cladis (Mark S.), Cosman (Carol) - The Elementary Forms of Religious Life</A>": the function of religion is to unite society and to impress on individuals the normative structures of the society. Australian Aborigines as examples. This is a human need we find difficulty doing without; cf. the communal emotion of football crowds. </li><li>This is a better approach than that of Dawkins, who supposes that religious people are merely taken in by dud arguments. </li><li>Blackburn is an atheist  he thinks the metaphysical arguments go nowhere  but is not militant. </li><li><B>Hume</B>: see <a name="2"></a>"<A HREF = "../../BookSummaries/BookSummary_00/BookPaperAbstracts/BookPaperAbstracts_604.htm">Hume (David), Tweyman (Stanley), Ed. - Dialogues Concerning Natural Religion</A>", and in particular the <I>Natural History of <U><A HREF="#On-Page_Link_918_1">Religion</A></U><SUB>1</SUB><a name="On-Page_Return_918_1"></A></I>. Philo  a moral atheist  has a purely verbal disagreement with Cleanthes. There is a vague analogy  a portrait versus reality  but we don t have the reality. </li><li>Don t sell your soul to someone  with beard, sandals and a text  who tells you what to think. </li><li>Can there be normativity in the natural order?  Is versus  ought . Are there moral particles  let s call them <B>morons</B>  that impinge on our minds? </li><li><B>Proto-naturalisation of ethics</B>: dogs and the  canid bow prior to play  promises no dirty tricks. Coyotes <U>shun</U> those that abuse the canid bow by pretending to play, but fight for real. This means death for a pack animal. See  Wild <U><A HREF="#On-Page_Link_918_2">Justice</A></U><SUB>2</SUB><a name="On-Page_Return_918_2"></A>  a kind of norm; maybe the canid bow is learnt as pups grow up? </li><li>There is nothing unnatural in moral thought  values and desires are entirely natural; the deontological side  oughts etc.  comes down to conformity. Intentionality is not unnatural, and is easy to naturalise from the psychological process when in the grip of a norm. Durkheim tells us that the purpose getting a society together is to reinforce the norm. </li><li><B>Adam Smith</B>: a rare improver on Hume  good on resentment and punishment. Reproach is an inter-personal attitude that wants the appreciation that your anger is justified, so that the malefactor can be brought back into the community. </li><li>It s an empirical question whether we <U>need</U> religion to enforce morality. </li><li><B>Voltaire reversed</B>: Can believing absurdities make you stop perpetrating atrocities?</li></ol></P> <FONT COLOR = "0000FF"><BR><HR><h3 class = "Left">In-Page Footnotes:</h3><a name="On-Page_Link_918_1"></A><U><A HREF="#On-Page_Return_918_1"><B>Footnote 1</B></A></U>: In <a name="3"></a>"<A HREF = "../../BookSummaries/BookSummary_00/BookPaperAbstracts/BookPaperAbstracts_609.htm">Hume (David) - Essays & Treatises on Several Subjects - Vol II (1772 - Enquiries Concerning Human Understanding & Principles of Morals, Dissertation on the Passions, The Natural History of Religion)</A>", but see <a name="W2041W"></a><A HREF = "https://www.anselm.edu/homepage/dbanach/dnr.htm" TARGET = "_top">Link</A> for the full text on-line.<a name="On-Page_Link_918_2"></A><BR><BR><U><A HREF="#On-Page_Return_918_2"><B>Footnote 2</B></A></U>: A book by Marc Bekoff and Jessica Pierce  see <a name="W2042W"></a><A HREF = "https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/the-ethical-dog/#" TARGET = "_top">Link</A> for a summary by Bekoff. I don t have this book, but have <a name="4"></a>"<A HREF = "../../BookSummaries/BookSummary_03/BookPaperAbstracts/BookPaperAbstracts_3593.htm">Bekoff (Marc) - The Emotional Lives of Animals: A Leading Scientist Explores Animal Joy, Sorrow, and Empathy and Why They Matter</A>", wherein Chapter 4 treats of  Wild Justice .</center><br> <br><hr><h3 class = "Left">Printable Versions:</h3> <UL><li>Follow (<A Href="Notes_Print/NotesPrint_918_0_P_R.htm" TARGET = "_top">this link</A>) for level 0 (with reading list), and </li><li>Follow (<A Href="Notes_Print/NotesPrint_918_1_P.htm" TARGET = "_top">this link</A>) for level 1.</li></UL> <a name="TableOfPreviousVersions"></a><BR><HR><h3 class= "Left">Previous Version of this Note:</h3> <TABLE class = "ReadingList" WIDTH=700> <TR><TD WIDTH="20%" class = "BridgeCenter"><strong>Date</strong></TD> <TD WIDTH="10%" class = "BridgeRight"><strong>Length</strong></TD> <TD WIDTH="70%" class = "BridgeLeft"><strong>Title</strong></TD></TR> <TR><TD class = "BridgeCenter">18/06/2010 14:54:14</TD> <TD class = "BridgeRight">16</TD> <TD class = "BridgeLeft"><A HREF = "Notes_918_40347621.htm">Blackburn - 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